From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Thu Sep 15 08:31:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48AEBDC354; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward1o.cmail.yandex.net (forward1o.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a72::2a1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 737E5185E; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (smtp3h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.186.20]) by forward1o.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id CE39120C3F; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:31:07 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AC52B440DD2; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:31:05 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id kNO5ePs5JL-V4pekdc6; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:31:04 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0,1 0 Subject: Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile To: Bryan Drewery , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org> <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st> <74591600-69ee-7219-c878-5ae7366b42b8@passap.ru> <86ed1257-e5b7-8e82-ad37-039690a394a1@FreeBSD.org> From: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:30:27 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86ed1257-e5b7-8e82-ad37-039690a394a1@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:31:11 -0000 15.09.2016 01:11, Bryan Drewery пишет: > On 9/14/16 1:32 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> 14.09.2016 22:44, Bryan Drewery пишет: >> >>> Ports need maintainers. >> >> Agreed. But _need_ is not _must have_. > > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/need > "a situation in which someone or something must do or have something" OK. You quoted the "Simple definition". Here is a quote from the "Full definition": "2 a : a lack of something requisite, desirable, or useful" >>> It is standard practice to deprecate ports without a maintainer >> >> Then it is a bad practice. > > Having ports without a maintainer is a bad practice.> It leaves users > with no one to support them when things go wrong. It leaves users with help from the community and any port's committer ability to commit immediately. There are plenty of examples at ports@ ML. > A new compiler could > easily break this port and no one would be there to support fixing it. > >> Unless you say "... to deprecate *broken/unwanted/etc* ports ...". But >> you did not. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve