From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 18:08:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1831D106567B for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=julian=2029692e7@ironport.com) Received: from smtp-outbound.ironport.com (smtp-outbound.ironport.com [63.251.108.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC57D8FC08 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=julian=2029692e7@ironport.com) DomainKey-Signature: s=key512; d=ironport.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To: CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=Ko5uGsO6UmwJ5fCXVszP5wTB1m21HRkDkUamTXAKdi+lh3d1sbeM6U2U CfpuClIx8Q1OBj755rs0ZwKh48KPDA==; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ironport.com; i=julian@ironport.com; q=dns/txt; s=ironport-dkim; t=1227118096; x=1258654096; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Julian=20Elischer=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20tokenring=20users?|Date:=20Wed,=2019=20 Nov=202008=2010:08:13=20-0800|Message-ID:=20<4924560D.800 0101@ironport.com>|To:=20"Bjoern=20A.=20Zeeb"=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Net=20|MIME-Version:=201.0|In-Reply-To:=20<200811 19102301.R61259@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net>|References:=20 <49233959.9040903@ironport.com>=20<4923D7C0.7050301@freeb sd.org>=20<4923DB2D.2080702@ironport.com>=20<200811191023 01.R61259@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net>; bh=KCXuKvY0VVG3IMVKLPE9amai/mbkYspRpwi4Tj0b04w=; b=I5QcSoJXRursV5m6lNoyeiOJU/yN5bq1Vz4hRng7jHs/sSfD4dy1JWIa XM4voXBYpdDihZNsT57rOiW7Dl2RSA==; Received: from unknown (HELO julian-mac.elischer.org) ([10.251.60.177]) by smtp-outbound.ironport.com with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2008 10:08:14 -0800 Message-ID: <4924560D.8000101@ironport.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:08:13 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" References: <49233959.9040903@ironport.com> <4923D7C0.7050301@freebsd.org> <4923DB2D.2080702@ironport.com> <20081119102301.R61259@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: <20081119102301.R61259@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000507090404070107050204" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Net Subject: Re: tokenring users? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:08:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000507090404070107050204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Hi, > >> Andre Oppermann wrote: >>> Julian Elischer wrote: >>>> One of the things that are making things hard for network testing >>>> is the question >>>> "what to do about tokenring support?" >>>> >>>> We seem to have a dearth of tokenring users so we are completely >>>> unable >>>> test how changes affect tokenring. >>>> >>>> If anyone here knows anyone whoul could: >>>> 1/ help support tokenring >>>> 2/ help test tokenring, >>>> >>>> could they get in touch? >>> >>> I guess Token Ring is as dead as it gets. The last I time ran across >>> someone using it was in 1996 or 1997. I asked our engineers here (on >>> a customer base of about 1k SME) and got only blank stares. >>> >> >> yes I think that may be the case but I saw a bug report >> about it a few years ago.. > > I have given away all my TR equipment a few years back, but I know people > still running TR though with Cisco and non-FreeBSD-OSes though they > got rid > of all TR they could get rid off. > > So what exactly is your question in supporting and testing FreeBSD TR > support? > > And let me ask why you are asking for TR, not FDDI or some of the > other things lingering in sys/net**? > > /bz > There are some vestiges of tokenring support in the system but since htey can't really be tested, people have been making "guessing" changes to them as things go forward. We don't know if they really work. If there are no tokenring users we might as well remove the clutter. I don't really know about FDDI support.. do we have it? --------------000507090404070107050204--