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Date:      Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:16:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@ref.tfs.com>
To:        asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=)
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Case for FreeBSD presentation docs?
Message-ID:  <199504182116.OAA04916@ref.tfs.com>
In-Reply-To: <199504182047.NAA04963@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=" at Apr 18, 95 01:47:50 pm

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don't forget to mention booting off the network, and the 'over-the-net'
install that means you will only need a floppy (or less) to install
a machine..

(or as we  have done here...)
boot off the net, install onto hard-drive..

> 
> Our research group (NOW, short for Network of Workstations, doing
> research on a parallel computing environment to replace MPPs) are now
> discussing for a possible extension of horizon to PCs.  Of course, I
> think this is a good chance to have them realize that they can get
> "commercial-grade" (no flames please, note the quotes) BSD operating
> systems on fast, inexpensive computers.
(also ask if SCSI communication between machines for large
data migrations might be of interest..)

get a pentium/90 system and the 100MB enet, with 32MB ram
and on-board NCR scsi, and IDE, and you
could SCSI-cluster 8 machines (16 for wide) 
and connect the clusters with 100MB enet !
> 
> The next group meeting is on Thursday, so I need to make some quick
> preperation.  I'm the only FreeBSD proponent in the group, there are
> several Linux users, and the rest are "workstation > PC" people.
> 
work on the price of the WS vs the Price of a good PC
and point out you can get free CDs (:

> So, if you have any documentation or list of caveats and emptors
> (pardon my Latin), I'd like to hear from you.  Anything will be fine,
> of course I won't merely reuse them, I just need examples and list of
> things to consider.
> 
> Also, if people are aware of high-end network components supported by
> FreeBSD, it will be great.  I've found something about the DEC 21140
> based chip in the mail archive, is the driver fully functional now?
> How much does it cost?  (Those kinds of questions.)  Same goes to the
> FDDI driver.
> 
> Note that this will be a HUGE project, which might go up to the order
> of thousands.  The main discussion topic is like "hundreds of
> workstations or thousands of PCs?".
better modelling of large clusters with more but cheaper machines :)

talk to Rod about the absolute cheapest 
pentium/486DX4 based systems..
I assume they will be 'rack mounted?'
sounds like fun..
where are you doing this?
(got room for outsiders? :)

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Satoshi
> 




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