From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 1 01:05:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FD416A4DF; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suck@my-balls.com) Received: from aries.siriushosting.com (aries.siriushosting.com [69.90.216.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCDC43D55; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:05:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from suck@my-balls.com) Received: from laptop.my.domain (CPE000e0c2c742e-CM001371140156.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.25.115.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by aries.siriushosting.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k81159JN022951 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:04:58 -0400 From: Adam To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20060831210458.4b377c7d@laptop.my.domain> In-Reply-To: <20060831200228.B82634@hub.org> References: <20060830232723.GU10101@multics.mit.edu> <98f5a8830608301731s2b0663e3g94b0bd32f8a06a78@mail.gmail.com> <950621ad0608310654h78ae0023g346abd108815ae72@mail.gmail.com> <20060831110112.J82634@hub.org> <20060831184715.B82634@hub.org> <44F7619B.8010609@evilkittens.org> <20060831192632.T82634@hub.org> <20060831225719.GG25515@ribeyre.gentiane.org> <20060831200228.B82634@hub.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.6 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i386-unknown-openbsd3.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: miros-discuss@mirbsd.org, misc@openbsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org Subject: Re: The future of NetBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:05:14 -0000 "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Miod Vallat wrote: > > >> I'd rather have Adaptec provide a source code driver for their cards > >> directly, then have Scott Long have to fight with unavailability of > >> documentation itself ... if the driver works, what do we need > >> documentation for? > > > > To fix the driver. > > If the vendor is supporting the driver, and working with the community, > then one would hope that they would also fix the driver as bug reports > come in about it ... That is beyond naive. Many companies don't even do this for their windows drivers. There's lots of perfectly good hardware out there that doesn't work in recent windows releases because the company making it wants you to buy more hardware, so they refuse to update their drivers. You can keep your vendor lock in thanks, I don't want it. Adam