From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 14 10:35:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C59137B405 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-30-171.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.30.171]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24271; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:35:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020214123518.00e34990@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:35:18 -0600 To: Tim Uckun , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: First impressions of freebsd 4.5 In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020214110048.017cfbf0@mail.diligence.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20020214093134.00e34990@mail.sage-american.com> <4.2.0.58.20020213225337.00a4b150@mail.diligence.com> <20020213155828.0c3d87d2.chip@wiegand.org> <20020213145939.GG19456@roman.mobil.cz> <20020213063120.2809c007.chip@wiegand.org> <20020213145939.GG19456@roman.mobil.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tim: Don't take my observation wrong, except that the things you were saying on a "newbie" list could be misleading if some others believed the features truly did not exist as you say. They do exist, but have different command names/syntax. Also, you merely encountered some installation problems that could have been for many reasons, none of which were necessarily the fault of the OS and its ports.... I know the things you mentioned can in fact install quite smoothly but care must be taken.... or be absent of other factors such as hardware conflicts ... or from "operator error".... Give it 30 days and then post another message about the experience which I'll bet will be different.... At 11:10 AM 2.14.2002 -0700, Tim Uckun wrote: >At 09:31 AM 2/14/2002 -0600, jacks@sage-american.com wrote: >>IMHO I cannot see that this is constructive especially since you should >>first have spent some time looking for the features you simply haven't yet >>found... before simply "ranting". > >Fair enough. Like I said it's a rant too. > >I guess I was thinking I would have less problems then I thought seeing as >I have quite a bit of experience with debian which is considered one of the >more "difficult" linux distros (I disagree with that assessment BTW). > >Besides I thought this list was for sharing your frustrations and joys. >Trust me when the epiphany strikes you'll hear it too. > > > > > >:wq >Tim Uckun >US Investigations Services/Due Diligence > http://www.diligence.com/ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin =================================================== Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; ....situation excellent! ....I shall attack!" =================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message