From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 17:46:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1360B10656A5; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77F68FC30; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86F8946B09; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.hudson-trading.com (unknown [209.249.190.8]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C08588A01D; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:46:37 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Doug Barton Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:43:23 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20090917183525.O73400@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4AB21295.5080103@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4AB21295.5080103@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200909221343.24541.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:46:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-rc@freebsd.org, Ian Smith , Cezary Morga Subject: Re: 8.0 rc.d scripts less verbose? X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:46:39 -0000 On Thursday 17 September 2009 6:42:29 am Doug Barton wrote: > > Also, I agree with Oliver; YES should probably be the default > > (POLA) so folks annoyed by 'too much information' in console.log > > can disable it. > > This late in the release cycle I'm comfortable adding a knob, but I'm > not comfortable toggling the default. If there is consensus on the > freebsd-rc list to make the default "yes" then I will go with that > consensus. I actually vote for getting this into 8.0 and turning the messages back on to undo the current POLA violation in 8.0. The biggest thing I think is just restoring the functionality as the messages are handy when debugging a startup issue. -- John Baldwin