From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 1 18:41:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2241237B9D4 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:41:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18713; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:11:09 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:11:09 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Doug Barton Cc: "David A. Medeiros" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offensive figures (wa: Why?) Message-ID: <20000702111109.N18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <395B229A.D6CD5BD0@mediaone.net> <20000630183122.F7687@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <395CCD89.4660E85D@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <395CCD89.4660E85D@gorean.org> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 30 June 2000 at 9:40:41 -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> On Thursday, 29 June 2000 at 6:19:06 -0400, David A. Medeiros wrote: >>> Why is a figure offensive in its caricturization used as the logo for >>> FreeBSD? Thanks! >> >> Why, is a figure offensive in its caricturization used as the logo for >> FreeBSD? The logo represents a daemon. What's offensive about that? > > Yes, that's the rationalization for it. But come on. The character is a > visual pun. It's _clearly_ drawn to represent a devil/demon. The high > minded "It's really a dAemon" business is just a convenient excuse. Why > else would BSDi be passing out little devil horns at usenix? Those were daemon horns. > How would you draw a daemon, really? Well, how do you draw a devil? IIRC the current suggestion of horns and tail go back to representations of the Greek God/Daemon Pan (from which we get panic :-). Christianity came up with the concept of devils relatively late (it's not a Jewish concept), and they adapted the image from daemons. The real reason why the devils were considered evil was because in pre-judaic times they competed with the One True God. Other people worshipped Baal, for example, but he became Beelzebub in Christian tradition. BTW, I brought a pair of daemon horns back from USENIX, and my wife put them on. The cat freaked out. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message