From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 00:26:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1E037B401 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpsgiken.alpsgiken.gr.jp (www.alpsgiken.gr.jp [210.166.150.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B57E43F93 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joel@alpsgiken.alpsgiken.gr.jp) Received: from zz_radiant2 (203-179-81-25.cust.bit-drive.ne.jp [203.179.81.25]) by alpsgiken.alpsgiken.gr.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W) with ESMTP id QAA24768 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:26:41 +0900 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:29:58 +0900 From: Joel Rees To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3F36CB03.3020409@earthlink.net> References: <3F36CB03.3020409@earthlink.net> Message-Id: <20030811145943.6A4B.JOEL@alpsgiken.gr.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.11 Subject: Re: Darwin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:26:46 -0000 > Supposedly FreeBSD is the basis for Darwin. Just one of those urban legends. ;-) Lessee, if I wander over to http://www.freebsd.org/ and look in the FAQ at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html and browse through the introduction at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/introduction.html I find that there is a topic about the differences between the bsds: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/introduction.html#DIFFERENCES-TO-OTHER-BSDS and in that paragraph I find that there is a reference to a page that talks about the bsd family tree, http://www.daemonnews.org/200104/bsd_family.html and if I read that page I discover that there is a little discussion of Mac OS X and Darwin. Apparently, Darwin is derived from the Mach kernel and from all the bsds in various proportions. > Any idea why Good question. Who started that rumor? :-P > since FreeBSD > does not have a PowerPC port? Sure it does. Just not anywhere near as stable as freeBSD for Sparc or alpha or i386. Back at http://www.freebsd.org/ I see that there are some hardware notes: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.1R/hardware.html and in there I see there is a link below the list of platforms that have released code, to platforms currently under development: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/index.html And in the list on that page: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html Hmm. Says it's on the verge on booting to single-user mode. But following the links around some more to the mailing list archives shows this message from Peter Grehan: ... The system has been able to run multi-user on a limited number of NewWorld models for a while, although installation is not pretty. HTH -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp