From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 2 22:06:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2211DE90 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnebdal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x230.google.com (mail-lb0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F31B1926 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 22:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id z5so3811903lbh.35 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:06:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G84l2etWdNWVc/pONuMJGsihbyN2uGv9Mc9QC5OYx5c=; b=v78NIDpL/K1RXqW8BTZiSZdR+ln827OSHHIVCbtpOfk4AW4GmM4fXSpY/BxByLJ+El ezgmVKNkqLlST05lyfqBHG2RTqIliVNuO4JJOx+eLk+vbE2U1RidZfKHG0ugoEwnmTuM VPwiKYC2oBF+q8S/NGu07SAZUvNtBxRwokiXpiCE5HhxpxONq41k7V30Cvt6Yp512I8x OT41GJ0+auFIDS3y/CEwCZgCdzmWcEeoprsB/F+SLFmtBZIuKVAgsciSBK8ZY2A3SrsV 8+nCK5Z3Pp9OdCTxqqLNUX6ABwfyFyMk67reqqXpjsQQeKMCbB/rPIPndLkLLV/6U0rk CZdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.5.199 with SMTP id u7mr14889627lbu.67.1372802799573; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.140.231 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:06:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51D32B56.5000606@intersonic.se> References: <20130701082022.GA2348@La-Habana> <20130701093830.GC77709@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <51D1E5E5.80801@intersonic.se> <20130701204058.GA1076@tiny.Sisis.de> <1372734337.76461.YahooMailNeo@web164004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20130702051017.GA1693@La-Habana> <51D2EF17.3050101@netfence.it> <51D2F7DE.2090307@pingle.org> <51D32B56.5000606@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 00:06:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: kde3 ports expired today From: Daniel Nebdal To: Per olof Ljungmark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Jim Pingle , Ports FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 22:06:41 -0000 On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Per olof Ljungmark wrot= e: > On 2013-07-02 18:31, Daniel Nebdal wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Jim Pingle wrote: >>> On 07/02/13 07:10, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>>> El d=EDa Monday, July 01, 2013 a las 08:05:37PM -0700, Jeffrey Bouquet >>>> escribi=F3: >>>> >>>>> bsdstats.org > ports stats would have that information probably >>>> >>>> http://bsdstats.org/ports.php?category=3D91 >>>> >>>> says in column 'times in use': >>>> >>>> x11/kde3: 534 >>>> x11/kde4: 86 >>> >>> I feel as though I'm in the happy minority who use and enjoy KDE4. My >>> FreeBSD desktop/workstation is running it well but it does not have >>> limited resource requirements (i7-750, 8G of RAM, Radeon HD 4650). >>> >>> Since Amarok and K3B outgrew their KDE3 dependencies, I've managed to >>> keep my system KDE3/QT3-free for a while now, though that wasn't always >>> easy in the past. >>> >>> The only real hiccup I've had was the recent KDE4 bump that made me hav= e >>> to reconfigure some things, but it ended up working better than ever in >>> the end. The only current complaint I have is about the atrocities they >>> have committed to KMail. >>> >>> Resource usage and philosophical reasons aside, some people who have >>> been burned by KDE4 in the past may want to revisit it now, it's mature= d >>> a lot from its early days. >>> >>> Personally I won't miss KDE3 at all, and I really haven't missed it for >>> several years now. >>> >>> Jim >> >> >> I was about to write something similar. My work machine has been on >> KDE4 for years, and though it was quite rocky in the earlier versions >> it has kind of quietly disappeared into the background (in a good way) >> now - while I can understand the gnome2 revival projects, I don't >> quite see the point of e.g. Trinity. > > Of course KDE4 works and many people use it daily - but for me who got > used to a fairly stripped desktop with just the basics I work with all > the time KDE4 was just in the way, in fact, it made me work more on > Windows XP. > > My hope now is that xfce grows just a little bit more in functionality > to be roughly a KDE3 successor. > > //per I haven't tried it, but Razor-Qt looks like a reasonable environment as well - though you need to add apps, like, oh, the KDE4 ones. Which might not be quite what you were after. x)