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Date:      Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:06:20 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Cynic" <cynic@mail.cz>, "Bill Moran" <wmoran@iowna.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: OT: Ethics and nature (was Re: Justification for using FreeBSD)
Message-ID:  <003001c0f582$d37b4a40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010615063952.03f5dba0@mail.cz>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Cynic
>Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:02 PM
>To: Bill Moran
>Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: OT: Ethics and nature (was Re: Justification for using
>FreeBSD)
>
>
>At 06:08 15.6. 2001, Bill Moran wrote the following:
>--------------------------------------------------------------

>They don't fear some freedom
>or anything that esoteric. They fear they'll earn less money. All this is

Uh, no.  They don't FEAR that they'll earn less money.  They KNOW that they
ARE earning less money RIGHT NOW as a result of Open Source.  Microsoft
would
never have started fighting against Open Source if they didn't have research
results that confirmed a loss in revenue attributable to Open Source.  They
aren't going to admit this publically, of course, but they are quite
obviously
there.

>One thing about this _is_ important, though. The more bashing MS recieves
>from the OS crowd, the less the OS crowd (and its produts) look mature
>in the eyes of businesses they're competing for.
>

This is a myth.

Turn this around and say the more bashing that OS receives from MS,
the less the MS crowd (and it's products) look mature in the eyes of
businesses they're competing for.  Since MS is bashing OS, then by
this logic businesses must be leaving them in droves because of how
immature they look.  Yeah, right.

In short, what you have here is a stalemate.

There's something else you should consider too.  The Linux community is
really who started the public MS bashing of MS products.  Obviously,
this didn't harm Linux, and in reality it helped them so much that
Microsoft finally saw so much profit loss that they started reacting back.

If remaining aloof from bashing ever helped anyone, then politicians
would never engage in mudslinging, and Microsoft would never have started
bashing OS.

Negative advertising, (ie: bashing) has been shown to work as long
as it doesen't "cross the line".  It may not work as well as positive
advertising, but it does work.  And, it's also superior to use to
leverage news organizations to do your advertising for you.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com



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