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Date:      Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:41:07 +0530
From:      vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
To:        Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
Cc:        Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org>, Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>, freebsd-net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: BBR patches?
Message-ID:  <DEA3139A-ED05-47D9-833E-F1631E7185AD@gmail.com>
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Actually I am on head already as mentioned previously. Pulled it using yesterday:

>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /use/src

If you could pls let me know the new patch, I can try that.

Thanks 

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> On 18-Sep-2019, at 8:56 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
> 
> There have been several patches pre-this one that provide
> the infrastructure to support BBR.
> 
> Release 12.0 will *not* have these patches and will *not* compile it.
> 
> I have no intention at this point in doing a MFC of this work.. so if you want
> to run BBR you need to run Head
> 
> R
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Randall,
>> 
>> Could you please provide a pointer to the latest patch. I had applied the one you published Sep-10.
>> 
>> Following is what I have done:
>> 1. Picked FreeBSD 12.0 RELEASE VM from osboxes.org
>> 2. Got VM up under VMPlayer on x86 laptop
>> 3. Checked out latest codebase from freebsd repo:
>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src*
>> cd /usr/src;
>> make buildworld buildkernel  
>> [this is where make fails when patch is applied]
>> 
>> I could try to build with your latest patch - please send me a pointer.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help!
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:33 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>> Looking at your make file log I can’t really tell what you are doing.
>> 
>> Its not the BBR or Rack code that is blowing up… 
>> 
>> Are you cross compiling?
>> 
>> I have done the old fashioned kernel make
>> 
>> i.e. 
>> 
>> cd src/sys/amd64/config
>> config headvm
>> cd ../compile/headvm
>> 
>> make cleandepend ; make depend; make -j3
>> 
>> I have done
>> 
>> cd src
>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=headvm
>> 
>> And even
>> 
>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
>> 
>> to make sure that the build works without bbr.
>> 
>> I attach my headvm config..
>> 
>> What exactly are you building and how? kernel config too please?
>> 
>> R
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> looking
>>> 
>>> I was at 352408.. let me update and try it
>>> 
>>> R
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm
>>>> 
>>>> Did you get the patch I updated too this am?
>>>> 
>>>> I have built it both with and without the bbr stack and had no issue.. there was
>>>> an issue with KTLS before the update though.
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t recognize what you have below there though…
>>>> 
>>>> R
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:47 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Got it - thank you!
>>>>> 
>>>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. Following is SVN info + make error mesg.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> #svnlite revision
>>>>> Path: .
>>>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
>>>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
>>>>> Relative URL: ^/head
>>>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
>>>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
>>>>> Revision: 352436
>>>>> Node Kind: directory
>>>>> Schedule: normal
>>>>> Last Changed Author: jah
>>>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
>>>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
>>>>> 
>>>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
>>>>> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------- snip ----------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo dev_net.llo bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
>>>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
>>>>> ===> sys (cleandir)
>>>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o sack_filter.o rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h opt_tcpdebug.h opt_kern_tls.h
>>>>> rm: x86: is a directory
>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:41 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Got it - thank you!
>>>>> 
>>>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. Following is SVN info + make error mesg.
>>>>> I have also attached the entire build log...snippet is below
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> #svnlite revision
>>>>> Path: .
>>>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
>>>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
>>>>> Relative URL: ^/head
>>>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
>>>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
>>>>> Revision: 352436
>>>>> Node Kind: directory
>>>>> Schedule: normal
>>>>> Last Changed Author: jah
>>>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
>>>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
>>>>> 
>>>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
>>>>> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------- snip ----------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo dev_net.llo bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
>>>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
>>>>> ===> sys (cleandir)
>>>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o sack_filter.o rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h opt_tcpdebug.h opt_kern_tls.h
>>>>> rm: x86: is a directory
>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop.
>>>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:27 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>>> Pacing is provided by tcp_hpts.c. The current linux patches do not have
>>>>> to have fq.. they built an alternate means of doing pacing into bbr.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In either case our testing has shown that our pacing is more accurate than
>>>>> either fq or the internal pacer :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> R
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:05 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Randall.
>>>>>> I was able to apply the patch - now rebuilding the kernel. Would update on how it goes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW, is there any description on how lack of tc_fq under FreeBSD is compensated here?
>>>>>> The original BBR patches on Linux show that as a must-have? Is that functionality implemented via tcp_ratelimit.[ch]?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any pointers to existing presentations/discussions highly appreciated?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:39 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You should be able to compile it against the current head. I re-doing that now (had an
>>>>>> issue with my machine and had to roll it back to a backup).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I put the patch up on Sept 10th it complied with and without BBR on whatever
>>>>>> was that rev..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looking in the commit logs that would have been around 352191
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> R
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:32 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Randall,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for releasing BBR patch:
>>>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582#change-xcAWBif3E9Jq 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could you please let me know what SVN/GIT label tag this is based on? I would like to patch and experiment with it. I couldn't find this info in the released patch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot! 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:26 AM Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> rrs@ has just posted the BBR patch to phabricator:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------
>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------
>>> Randall Stewart
>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> ------
>> Randall Stewart
>> rrs@netflix.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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> Randall Stewart
> rrs@netflix.com
> 
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