From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 20:38:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B9F16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:38:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FS.denninger.net (wsip-68-15-213-52.at.at.cox.net [68.15.213.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0B343D1D for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:38:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with SMTP id j3PKcqqM032914 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:38:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net [127.0.0.1] by Spamblock-sys; Mon Apr 25 15:38:52 2005 Received: (from karl@localhost) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j3PKchAc032912; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:38:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl) Message-ID: <20050425153843.C32754@denninger.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:38:43 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: Pete French , mkb@incubus.de, wmoran@potentialtech.com References: <20050422092220.C54895@denninger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Pete French on Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 06:34:58PM +0100 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: jim-c@charter.net Subject: Re: Newbie Question About System Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:38:54 -0000 On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 06:34:58PM +0100, Pete French wrote: > > Colocation that does not include serial console access is IMHO worthless. > > i;ve been following this discussion with interest - what advantages does > a serial concolse give you over a colo's standard KVM access ? I've > never used a serial consolve with FreeBSD, though I see the phrase crop > up a lot. > > -pcf. How do you get to the KVM access? If you have to tell someone to do a thing, its worthless. If you can directly get to the KVM (remotely), e.g. via some application - then its ok. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind