From nobody Tue Jun 9 14:03:43 2026 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gZVxr6HSbz6g2wn; Tue, 09 Jun 2026 14:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R12" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gZVxr5p1fz3sxw; Tue, 09 Jun 2026 14:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1781013824; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Kdl/BNf5/hhyuSosIwJzglIHlwssovOk9lGEJVHWf1o=; b=CZz0rZ5JDYdLNKvVwcu2VJuDEo0mqGuhRT5oymb3qhSDcw9t0FY9euQr64MPaK/FiZ/LSC jJo0gB3x5K8H4xImTY231qFHmF/lYJEpbpKPESKIruUJkDWh5PBNoezm+4xLYiwTA9wgSq ynlbBj3igpgh84tuP3tWZr+Q/HC1i/oWktAUtJcgWOwZh0A5iw0dfutaDzR7J9SGuUFFcf ndDrK/2Q8SFljOA3F3xlF1aNfpcJq1LUWYBRYrbkH+uMI+ODsGLvvljryyEDj/JvA0JEUo t5nCjCfXXDQR+FGF+T9EPbA82Ursf00kdl5aHTy6zDDY3vUn/vKc3uQ5VzrH4A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1781013824; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FfgwP+IlAOhwNdB6I2P1sgugVbJUvTe8ZSAyZEWXWK7qBR+oKq/sQe/jftV90IjZuOT249 NjVglhHbMbT1PVVVjioHh5M7Fzlxwt7K+2oyqUe6sfxy5A3c2y+MBFd6fKODNKJmYKBKj+ 7bccte2E3go3jYOyw9UANLnQQzhKDAPuS9SJizYT1WHkjgg8np6v0+U7i7aNA0CvfxkEu2 /6UUDzfs8nmaWO59xpwsSdY5YUQ/oCZHu8qY4XzuRyu4XBjrwfGrSDLuzY6BL9l0+5z1N+ L+wn12N0yCzs6XAqlTjOgMCvJNy3vVP/Wa2rk8mycTZ7SxRaBRDChINxWnk6rA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1781013824; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Kdl/BNf5/hhyuSosIwJzglIHlwssovOk9lGEJVHWf1o=; b=Gzt50X6NhcXVYZHKo0o1oK7/UNPxXlhyEIfvxUpqi99UsqQ31bNGkb0oNQGMa2zOmTpkze 8Vsq5LqXzOE2VJso/RbBYLxPLLBrgiZemDlxO592VNKJ0Y3K5dVeB5CXZqGfSZ8Sv5vQDE wxTYvyuinBJgULydYYepzUXxNwu3ji8u0uEQVTVFPF2OOyINrvri1zlUjd2oNNujK3sJpZ V1+5Drp6rfrIopHhfJe7/tc58Y0pp8F96pXImJ2tiSGJNXJ7DCx7cpTDyxH+5QGkfW/rwx pAnfeDD1U+IqETXPA5ABWCO5LpuRxH8Jz9xO9CuSLDOWSNJ0UgamITKlPSowCQ== Received: from [IPV6:2601:5c0:4202:5670:5830:fff7:274a:e7d2] (unknown [IPv6:2601:5c0:4202:5670:5830:fff7:274a:e7d2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jhb) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4gZVxr3cKqzLJy; Tue, 09 Jun 2026 14:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <387ec9ef-32a5-4600-ad88-ec7b04b0f190@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 10:03:43 -0400 List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: git: ddf6fad0295a - main - etcupdate: Make nobuild the default Content-Language: en-US To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= , Jessica Clarke Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org" , "dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org" References: <6a22f100.42af1.51deb269@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <8E2A1D1D-F83C-4583-82B4-53B869507627@freebsd.org> <86ecihqdbj.fsf@ltc.des.dev> From: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <86ecihqdbj.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 6/8/26 11:09, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Jessica Clarke writes: >> Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes: >>> commit ddf6fad0295aa92af5eed2a4b2fa0bd02f47d94d >>> Author: Dag-Erling Smørgrav >>> AuthorDate: 2026-06-05 15:53:25 +0000 >>> Commit: Dag-Erling Smørgrav >>> CommitDate: 2026-06-05 15:53:25 +0000 >>> >>> etcupdate: Make nobuild the default >>> >>> The common case for etcupdate is to run it after building and installing >>> the world, in which case we already have an object directory to draw on. >>> Add a -b option to turn nobuild off (opposite of -B), and turn nobuild >>> on by default. >>> >>> MFC after: 1 week >> Changing the default here seems like it might not be appropriate for MFC? > > On the contrary, the reason I'm switching is that the current default is > harmful. Harmful or slow? Certainly it is slower, but AFAIK you still get an updated /etc. Maybe the generated sendmail.mc files are slightly different from the ones you would otherwise get, but those changes are cosmetic (comments only). -- John Baldwin