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Date:      Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:13:27 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 7.1 and BIND exploit
Message-ID:  <48861537.6060406@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080722170726.GC1279@lava.net>
References:  <200807212219.QAA01486@lariat.net> <200807221552.m6MFqgpm009488@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080722160542.GA14592@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <48860D38.6060209@FreeBSD.org> <20080722170726.GC1279@lava.net>

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Clifton Royston wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 09:39:20AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>> cpghost wrote:
>>> Yes indeed. If I understand all this correctly, it's because the 
>>> transaction ID that has to be sent back is only 2 bytes long,
>> 2 bits, 16 bytes.
>     ^^^^     ^^^^^  Think you mean those the other way!

Oops, ELACKOFCAFFEINE

>>> and if the query port doesn't change as well with every query, that
>>> can be cracked in milliseconds: sending 65536 DNS queries to a
>>> constant port is just way too easy! The namespace is way too small,
>>> and there's no way to fix this by switching to, say, 4 bytes or
>>> even more for the transaction ID without breaking existing
>>> resolvers; actually without breaking the protocol itself.
>> That's more or less accurate, yes.
>>
>> Doug
> 
>   I just saw mention in Infoworld - adequate details of the exploit
> were guessed by another developer and then confirmed.  They're now
> circulating, so I think we can expect engineered attacks soon.
> 
> All:
>   Upgrade your servers today, do not wait.

Agreed on both counts.


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