From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 21 08:57:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39449106566C; Mon, 21 May 2012 08:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB37F8FC0A; Mon, 21 May 2012 08:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01026511; Mon, 21 May 2012 08:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7BDD6911F; Mon, 21 May 2012 10:57:33 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Jamie References: <20120520170702.GY22790@mule.podro.com> <1120936952.633013.1337546532026.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> <20120521035323.GZ22790@mule.podro.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 10:57:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20120521035323.GZ22790@mule.podro.com> (jamie@geniegate.com's message of "Sun, 20 May 2012 22:53:23 -0500") Message-ID: <868vglud1e.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Vincent Hoffman , Vance Siemens , Rick Macklem , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 08:57:35 -0000 Jamie writes: > Jails are usually more suited to "cloud work" than KVM or the latest > OpenVZ/Containers/??? of the linux world ever will be... No, they're not. VMWare, RHEV (KVM-based) etc. provide features such as seamless migration of virtual machines from one physical machine to another, automatic restart on a different physical server if one fails etc. that simply aren't possible with jails; and there are certain things you still can't run reliably / safely in jails - anything that relies on SysV IPC, for instance, such as PostgreSQL. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no