From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 7 18:36:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F3416A403 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52C243CCD for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so291923pyh for ; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:36:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GypE6iz18za+y514Pnxog4RO+MVzt3UOGzmLbcWBnBtF7FQo/kyDYmNP+26Qgs/o15trMx+wazGk0dxA6LuwDbM5hZVYFE+8iltDIAOVdKcz4lB9zwTwS+EuuaLdqccWGFwNBMAq0XnjRoRPPZgB3K6ZbAzxNsrmdLovuuSZ6z0= Received: by 10.35.69.11 with SMTP id w11mr1763957pyk.1165516570081; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.17.16 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:36:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0612071036v2df98097ncf9c962e43e6f39d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:36:10 +0000 From: Chris To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <20061123192532.GA81937@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061123162813.L3026@volte.student.utwente.nl> <20061123192532.GA81937@xor.obsecurity.org> Cc: s.c.sprong@student.utwente.nl, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshfs/nfs cause server lockup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:36:34 -0000 On 23/11/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 04:38:48PM +0100, s.c.sprong@student.utwente.nl wrote: > > Chris wrote: > > >kris a development on this, someone else posted about a nfs problem > > >and reading his post some starkling point he made about network cards, > > >he stated he only gets the bug on sis rl and fxp. > > > > Sorry for the misunderstanding, but I think that the 'NFS via TCP' thread > > covers other bugs, ie the inability to mount NFS v3 over TCP. > > > > I've tested the cards above, and the person I replied to encountered the > > same bug with a bge card. My solution was to remove custom nfs settings > > in sysctl.conf. I don't know which one was the culprit because I don't > > have the time to look into it further. > > > > My poking uncovered a set of crashing bugs and potentially a livelock. > > I would agree that NFS is very fragile in RELENG_6. > > So far I've not run into an NFS server deadlock you > > described. > > Are you sure these are NFS problems and not ethernet driver problems? > > Kris > > > Had another lockup today, reattached to screen process to see both sshfs mounts timed out when running sshfs to remount the terminal stopped updating, it didnt disconnect me and an ircd running on the server remained functional and the server responded to pings, however the terminal was dead and I couldnt login on ssh for a new session, a ctrl-alt-del also failed to reboot it and it needed a power cycle again. I have googled researched and read dozens and dozens of nfs bug reports where most of them seem to be a problem caused by nfs not disconnecting properly leaving itself in a bad state, the fix is usually to reboot. I am having to reboot weekly more often then my windows desktop pc, everyone else having no problems with the nfs on their linux servers having no problems and its hardly inspiring that the stable freebsd is not stable. All these problems on google didnt get fixed no dev attention etc. So far I have not got my local bsd box up and running yet due to no keyboard still need parts for it. Chris