From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 09:35:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B5D16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:35:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFC143D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:35:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost.addr.com [127.0.0.1]) iBO9Zgxl093729 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id iBO9Zbpt093723 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:35:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:35:37 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224013537.A88510@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <41CBDCB5.2070705@nbritton.org> X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 87DDBC1 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:35:50 -0000 > Who me?, no, I just use wiki's for my sites and edit the templates, I'm > to lazy to do it any other way as It's a pain in the ass to keep an html > site updated. I've kept quiet up until now but I'm afraid I have to step in and respectfully disagree here. If a site is hard to update, that indicates poor design and lack of forethought rather than anything else. XHTML, CSS and a little bit of PHP or Perl are all that is needed to create a clean, beautiful and above all, maintainable site. As a nice example, take a look at this site to see how minimal and readable XHTML can be if done properly (look at the source): http://www.csszengarden.com/ Plain HTML is often mistakenly viewed as simpler and easier but that couldn't be further from the truth. A combination of XHTML and CSS allows you to seperate formatting from page arrangement and make your life much easier. :) Have a good christmas, list. :) Mark