From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 4 12:07:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA17199 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA17177 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCAL (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) with IAEhv.nl; pid 1624 on Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:07:01 GMT; id TAA01624 efrom: peter@grendel.IAEhv.nl; eto: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from peter@localhost) by grendel.IAEhv.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00681; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:55:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970903225527.53357@grendel.IAEhv.nl> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:55:27 +0200 From: Peter Korsten To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft the GUI King (was Re: ATT Unix for Windows) References: <199709030704.BAA12723@obie.softweyr.ml.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67e In-Reply-To: ; from Eric J. Schwertfeger on Wed, Sep 03, 1997 at 08:16:55AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eric J. Schwertfeger shared with us: > > To expect *every* user to use the mouse to do the same is almost as silly. > Besides, that's what accellerator keys are for. One Alt-key to select the > user list, page-up/page down (or even better, start typing the name), you > get the idea. And having done stuff like that, I can tell you that if your > GUI toolkit supports it, this kind of stuff is trivial to add. Yep. Accelerator keys are a good idea. Every GUI supports them nowadays. BTW, in an earlier mail, someone asked something like "isn't VC++ hard to use due to the GUI?" and the answer is: indeed, it isn't. Actually, you can totally customize VC++. I made my own personal toolbar yesterday and you can also customize keystrokes. Compiling doesn't take that long either, even when your sources files reside on a FreeBSD server. C'mon, it isn't _that_ bad... :) Admitted, the settings menu for building your project is like applying for a car in pre-Gorbachov Russia, but let he who knows all GCC options by heart step forward and announce himself. > I can even do just about everything I ever need to do on Win95 > without a mouse. REPEAT UNTIL screen gets gray works as well. :) - Peter