Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:55:59 -0700
From:      David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
Cc:        Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program
Message-ID:  <20121026175559.GA44331@dragon.NUXI.org>
In-Reply-To: <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net>
References:  <CAGH67wRkOmy7rWLkxXnT2155PuSQpwOMyu7dTAKeO1WW2dju7g@mail.gmail.com> <201210020750.23358.jhb@freebsd.org> <CAGH67wTM1VDrpu7rS=VE1G_kVEOHhS4-OCy5FX_6eDGmiNTA8A@mail.gmail.com> <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> <CAGH67wQffjVHqFw_eN=mfeg-Ac2Z6XBT5Hv72ev0kjjx7YH7SA@mail.gmail.com> <127FA63D-8EEE-4616-AE1E-C39469DDCC6A@xcllnt.net> <20121025211522.GA32636@dragon.NUXI.org> <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 02:23:06PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> I think there are 2 reasons why not to:
> 1.  The people working on ATF have not raised this concern and
>     have expressed that using the WITH_BMAKE knob is but a small
>     price to pay.

I'm trying to create an ATF test for filemon, but I don't want to have to
build make back and forth when I want to build a port.
Likely that doesn't put me in the "people working on ATF" in your book.

> So let's work the bmake side and be able to
>     get rid of the knob as soon as possible.

Do we have any commitment as to when Portmgr will have bandwidth to
for testing bmake (I expect it will be several iterations)?  I suspect
they're pretty busy with 9.1-RELEASE, so is this gated by 9.1-R?


> 2.  More knobs isn't better -- we must have none of the knobs in
>     the end, so the more we create, the more work we have to get
>     rid of them. That's just more work spent not focusing on the
>     task at hand and thus more time wasted.

What can I and others do to work on this?  I'm not on Portmgr and most
aren't either.

 
> In short: this isn't a 2-knob problem by any stretch of the
> imagination.

I disagree.  Before sending my mail, I ran this by sjg and his response
was: "I have absolutely no objection".

-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)



Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20121026175559.GA44331>