Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 13:55:39 -0400 From: Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> To: Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?) Message-ID: <20120709175538.GA56437@DataIX.net> In-Reply-To: <CAETOPp0QHSknegHyLWi=2cPma9MJDnjT7yGGpKqfK9ixU7uP8Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <89AB703D-E075-4AAC-AC1B-B358CC4E4E7F@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4FF8C3A1.9080805@FreeBSD.org> <20472.51031.308284.775990@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FF8C890.9030408@FreeBSD.org> <CAMjP1KmVDJuKw09UFXb2M6QaL1dD1ocSjMOZLtjKiYFYoF9f4Q@mail.gmail.com> <4FFA7174.7050604@FreeBSD.org> <CAMjP1K=MahXEgHM-gKHFfDpQRDXY_0LGTn0JEE0Zm43%2Bh5jfPA@mail.gmail.com> <4FFA7980.4000707@FreeBSD.org> <CAMjP1K=b8mwqe31m=OqjUV%2BF=B85L4vpfT%2BDj00a1voPB-8TwA@mail.gmail.com> <CAETOPp0QHSknegHyLWi=2cPma9MJDnjT7yGGpKqfK9ixU7uP8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 09:42:43AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Avleen Vig <avleen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > [snip] > > > The issue is also one of barrier-to-entry. By removing `dig` and > > `host`, I think we're making things unnecessarily more difficult for > > people who don't *know* FreeBSD. `dig` and `host` a universally > > standard tools for doing DNS lookups. Taking them away in base to > > replace them with something else just seems like something that won't > > really *help* users. > > > [snip] > > One reason I'd like to see these "standard tools" be replaced with > something better is that their output sucks for use in any kind of > automation (unlike e.g. some of the the tools that ship with djbdns). > Where there is a will there is a way... usually boils down to the administrators understanding and use of system utilities to get the results they want. -- - (2^(N-1))
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