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Date:      Mon, 9 Jul 2012 13:55:39 -0400
From:      Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net>
To:        Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)
Message-ID:  <20120709175538.GA56437@DataIX.net>
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On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 09:42:43AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Avleen Vig <avleen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > [snip]
> >
> The issue is also one of barrier-to-entry. By removing `dig` and
> > `host`, I think we're making things unnecessarily more difficult for
> > people who don't *know* FreeBSD. `dig` and `host` a universally
> > standard tools for doing DNS lookups. Taking them away in base to
> > replace them with something else just seems like something that won't
> > really *help* users.
> >
> [snip]
> 
> One reason I'd like to see these "standard tools" be replaced with
> something better is that their output sucks for use in any kind of
> automation (unlike e.g. some of the the tools that ship with djbdns).
> 

Where there is a will there is a way... usually boils down to the
administrators understanding and use of system utilities to get the
results they want.

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 - (2^(N-1))



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