From nobody Fri May 22 01:32:31 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gM77S070Cz6fVrC for ; Fri, 22 May 2026 01:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mgm51.net (oneyou.mgm51.net [174.136.99.202]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "oneyou.mgm51.net", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gM77Q6ZF0z3Nxc for ; Fri, 22 May 2026 01:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=mgm51.com header.s=mgm51.com-10 header.b=OBEms4tg; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mgm51.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of the.lists@mgm51.com designates 174.136.99.202 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=the.lists@mgm51.com Received: from sentry.mgm51.net (sentry.mgm51.net [IPv6:2001:558:6017:e3:c493:60c6:f5f4:97a3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "sentry.mgm51.net", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gM77P1QdfzHh4X for ; Thu, 21 May 2026 21:32:33 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mgm51.com; s=mgm51.com-10; t=1779413553; bh=d5g6tglc39OkUIkoDROAxPaFmoSGCaJHJ1nAPdu697o=; h=Date:From:Subject; b=OBEms4tgmHNqv/dqoVthfM1v7uFSRTjfWCyQXdcP6hJsy6W2R6EFSkYDsVar5y1t/ EL0tEo4eP+G/HA7/5Z+vy3XtzIqzKTj6dydOwQcKwup+rdHAojIBWF8rTfSWquHeaG 2UcoAIfJLQCUVKoDBuEQiebdXR4tke8B1WB6LWS6Z2g6asMQaf73xt3FO9qo4+vGbZ fmluKKyhwIkzwgc/N9NkjXA7tT70/0bHPy7W0m+eWVdvBrMma4hpyiKeIOnacTWIG7 jxsXeonU2f3ENPdDOzwdcuoVIq+M1dkvrriTrWuUqq965tLnXqaEjU8GLMokYHXoqJ QhE+4sBdbkpfg== Received: from [10.11.2.100] (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.11.2.100]) by sentry.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gM77N1Wwtz11LkV for ; Thu, 21 May 2026 21:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 21:32:31 -0400 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Mike Subject: Update for 14.3 when it is out of date - not pretty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.68 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[mgm51.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.977]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,reject]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com:s=mgm51.com-10]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:174.136.99.202]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[174.136.99.202:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:174.136.96.0/20, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+] X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gM77Q6ZF0z3Nxc OK, I knew that the end of life for 14.3 was imminent, even past. But I ran. on my 14.3 install ... /usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch /usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install anyway. I was then faced with a strange message that I had to recompile all the packages I had downloaded in order to go forward. That I should do that and then run /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install again. Huh? I download packages, not source code of the packages, so how could I possibly recompile all of them? I had to do a full re-install of the server (using 14.4), with the resulting hours of downtime, because of this. In my 30 years of using FreeBSD, this is the first major, I'll be kind. issue, I have ever had with an update. OK, I am not saying that my old 14.3 version should have been supported. I am saying that there should have been a message telling me that there was an issue and it would not be good for me to proceed to try to update 14.3. And then the update procedure should nicely exit instead of trashing my server. Is this FreeBSD's new way of punishing long-time users who are slow to upgrade? Saying ... upgrade now or we will trash your server and force an upgrade via a re-install?