From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 16:08:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF1916A46D for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B02B13C4D1 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j37so1222712waf for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=afZN6DtW047rh9jblSRvHtuJ9YA7nGG7szB7IzNWDI3HCqQ70i/33mVKPP8m9OANlxcFh4wOD21zh8h+uKB5uh2pY8+lqT1ZnYthwF5sAmZDkkOrx4sfCMV1wo8v+bZ1zzN02BolTK2QVyTmpEbcwdum4i/ib7HWxHEy+Ey0tPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=F+VGjPNuk5glhciEmOs5/iiX96RHhDFOnAhLighkP3lD4RXk+RubVgigJyzZxJwGI35QY5eQ3bPnX6sS2if5K3VF7SvrDT4YqiQsWO8xteDgou26oad6/yTw0jWFilikdxQxfDd5oGrM17W0NMzsN9u9+0Psu5SUA7uIvegVENI= Received: by 10.115.16.1 with SMTP id t1mr3115863wai.1181923691862; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.13 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:08:11 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Kirill Ponomarew" In-Reply-To: <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200706151319.l5FDJ3ZT002340@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070615135952.GE19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b5a4bea49ec764fb Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev , cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/ppracer Makefile pkg-descr X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:08:12 -0000 On 6/15/07, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 06:55:20PM +0400, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > On 6/15/07, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > > > Andrew, please stop sending such kind of comments to > > > ports-committers@ alias, in this case it really should be sent > > > privately. But, frankly speaking, even if I get it privately, I'd > > > smile. You should really *think* before you mail your comments to > > > ports-committers list, these above comments are inappropriate here. > > > > > > Please move all you technical items for commits whether to ports@ > > > and discuss it there, or privately, depending how *important* is > > > your comment. Inserting the coins for every commit and do it in > > > ports-committers@ is not what I expected while discussing technical > > > review explanations. > > > > I'm the one who sends most messages, but this is not > > a one-man effort. Many people read them, some comment > > on them - and we all learn. And this is the point: > > making committers aware of the amount of problems in > > our commits, discussing them together. I'm not an > > automated process, we must all learn from each other's > > mistakes, broadcasted to a list, because we just don't > > have enough human resources for private lessons. > > Sorry, but it's high level crap to discuss here stuff like Approved > by: "pointyhat via kris", "pointyhat", "portsmon via linimon" or > just "portsmon". I don't want to see here the "yet another policy > and discussion how to write Approved by: line", should I write pav@ > or just pav, "via" kris or just kris. Andrew, I'm just repeating, > these are crap comments and they shouldn't belong to > ports-committers list. I get your message, I'll try to raise a bar a bit for qualifying comments on this front. > > As for the mailing-list, I think ports-committers is > > the most appropriate one because this is primarily an > > inter-committer process. > > You can't even really imagine how many users read ports-committers > list just to know the changes in the ports tree. They're not > interested in the above notes. So, please respect our users as well > and don't think only about committers guys. Try to use threaded mode or something. You're right, a lot of people are subscribed. I expected some of them to be extremely annoyed by my "spam". I'm sorry for that. Right now I'm just happy that you're the only one who have voiced it.