From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri May 25 21:55:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A887EF5A74 for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 21:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AC476EE7 for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 21:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E5938EF5A72; Fri, 25 May 2018 21:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D170DEF5A71 for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 21:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x22a.google.com (mail-yb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CB1776EE4 for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 21:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id y3-v6so2313636ybb.2 for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 14:55:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qm7jcF8Wr/KcE2+w8XmbhLsn+7BWF5JuLnD8pmEzpSw=; b=G+PusFim8EzZSR8UdTeKaovJFiue4lqp41hqshrJWR78gs5n9cDHUfGnEShuy7bz2Y QpbZsX2HLc+nZECm3trjmxDXnqBhPHu2+v+iYZokMSv5bz0xX4t0UDDfwBRaLR1TTHLa aQzOldxS7IPQkt20+ncW7hoTz1sUdnHx+6GCc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qm7jcF8Wr/KcE2+w8XmbhLsn+7BWF5JuLnD8pmEzpSw=; b=EgJpFDFcZjP2R+rc39Gg1bydz+NKTmBnAjFmzVHlu0M6x2JH/xV6FGwcXWv0qNCi2a 6456b/qiYT3BTbeBmnUUgGdCvhKzJ5DkkNWoNQwfWbe7hfFY97DHSqWjP7aVtujfAanL n07UR/C6kxeRZjE+EPgPKJdunQQA75pPANTr4C7JZxkX9Bmyt89Zf0AQ52xhxZGZYWM+ bf8llKo60NDwJ7ppt0l/8nf7vG/+DBj6L9dGo25Z04pqCHmV8tj3D+a/I865KwDBV8UO c+EFVVG8FZsrwsa938FfrbP8Fed/6FAuiXnR14X+gCXzan9ima/afqUgjd8W3rCliVvB Q74g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwcXbKgJvbBIOBZ66QBA+26mmIZWEvjceHkX6xy7m8jd6crdHNAT 9B8oRgSVDhzvCyrM18NBUjphyqHIUJ25qZJYumkU1w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKLkAoH28627WwtzUyh4a2lzuCOp1PUiEC4y9IRLZrUuHA5ElQssVL+awlrZ2vRbziDQxdjv9Ce6xZ8S6/4X0+Y= X-Received: by 2002:a25:786:: with SMTP id 128-v6mr2477841ybh.338.1527285337621; Fri, 25 May 2018 14:55:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:c709:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 25 May 2018 14:55:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6686653.ooTk0CQ0bF@ralph.baldwin.cx> From: Eitan Adler Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 14:55:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RFC: Create a default wlan for wireless NICs To: Warner Losh Cc: John Baldwin , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 21:55:39 -0000 On 25 May 2018 at 14:36, Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2018, 3:29 PM John Baldwin wrote: > >> From the bikeshed department.... >> >> The change at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D15481 would create a default >> wlan for wireless NICs by default. The default wlan's ifnet name would >> match the name of the adapter (e.g. "iwn0"). Existing configurations >> would still be honored and people who need multiple wlan devices can >> still do so using existing configuration variables in rc.conf, etc. >> >> However, the out of the box experience on a new machine would be that >> 'ifconfig iwn0' would Just Work(tm) for wireless NICs as it does now for >> wired NICs, and you could just use 'ifconfig_iwn0="WPA DHCP"' in rc.conf. >> I think this is more consistent with how we present NICs to users in >> > > Love it. Yes please! -- Eitan Adler