Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 14:04:21 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 13.1-RC1 Now Available Message-ID: <CANCZdfoU7bWxCm3FVqnp4oDyKC0pGkxteaW%2B8SXfy5mCOVS-EA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <YkiqyGMaLK6k6/SV@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> References: <20220401024029.GR76435@FreeBSD.org> <a16fe272-3e1a-c9d5-6e02-4b76f2502ee9@nicandneal.net> <8dc4c525-7117-4fc6-8b10-812128bf07c1@www.fastmail.com> <CANCZdfqx2pCDBeags7=pcC5pOEaKY5Gajy-uOHsQVUcGF1JdNw@mail.gmail.com> <YkiqyGMaLK6k6/SV@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>
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--0000000000005424a205dbb167ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 2:01 PM Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote: > Warner Losh: > > > This suggests that we've broken the KBI we were trying to keep stable > > between 13.0 > > and 13.1.... > > When I updated my stable/13 machine from source, from > March 16 to March 30, DRM was broken (did nothing). > Rebuilding graphics/drm-fbsd13-kmod fixed it. > > So there was an ABI break in this time window. This entry from > UPDATING implicates LinuxKPI changes as a likely candidate: > > 20220327: > Bump __FreeBSD_verion to 1301501 after merging LinuxKPI and > net80211 changes in order to help out-of-tree consumers to deal > accordingly. > Yes. So there was. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D33915 should unbreak the KPI and give us wiggle room in the future after 13.0 is no longer supported. That will restore the KBI and we'll pretend that March 27 - April 2nd/3rd never happened (the least bad of several bad alternatives). Warner --0000000000005424a205dbb167ca Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 2:01 PM Christ= ian Weisgerber <<a href=3D"mailto:naddy@mips.inka.de">naddy@mips.inka.de= </a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:= 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">= Warner Losh:<br> <br> > This suggests that we've broken the KBI we were trying to keep sta= ble<br> > between 13.0<br> > and 13.1....<br> <br> When I updated my stable/13 machine from source, from<br> March 16 to March 30, DRM was broken (did nothing).<br> Rebuilding graphics/drm-fbsd13-kmod fixed it.<br> <br> So there was an ABI break in this time window.=C2=A0 This entry from<br> UPDATING implicates LinuxKPI changes as a likely candidate:<br> <br> 20220327:<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bump __FreeBSD_verion to 1301501 after merging = LinuxKPI and<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 net80211 changes in order to help out-of-tree c= onsumers to deal<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 accordingly.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><di= v>Yes. So there was. <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D33915">https:/= /reviews.freebsd.org/D33915</a> should unbreak the KPI and give us wiggle r= oom in the future after 13.0 is no longer supported. That will restore the = KBI and we'll pretend that March 27 - April 2nd/3rd never happened (the= least bad of several bad alternatives).</div><div><br></div><div>Warner</d= iv></div></div> --0000000000005424a205dbb167ca--
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