From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 12:23:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C44E16A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:23:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7664B43D39 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:23:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from clem.twain@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1441551wri for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:23:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HYaNuG50olhyQCcowa0zGzZ8bNdxGvr5h786v2jg9Syt0HbyCF1TEAxA7OyqFPpVQHIRAIKfsgsV/JKgIdfNZaI+EML3XhqPsi5msniWL5V0354uf3CO22js4YNR+j22pzolxP3pH8YVTvn5QlEEHhd39aQ1xX+XujZP5gM9V1M= Received: by 10.54.39.52 with SMTP id m52mr517151wrm; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.10.100? ([165.165.215.90]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 13sm85339wrl.2005.05.02.05.23.40; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42761B9D.6070500@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:22:53 +0200 From: Clement Twine Organization: The Net Freax BV User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stijn Hoop References: <4273675C.1090400@gmail.com> <20050430122748.GC16298@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <42737CEF.8060304@gmail.com> <20050502082417.GA42487@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050502082417.GA42487@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 5.3 on latitude d600? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: clem.twain@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:23:45 -0000 Stijn Hoop wrote the following on 05/02/2005 10:24 AM: >>>> has anyone installed freebsd 5.3 on a dell latitude d600? >>>> have the following worked "out-of-the-box"? >>>> >>>> WiFi: Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter >>> >>> Not out of the box but there's a driver in -CURRENT for it: >>> iwi(4). There is a version for 5.3 on Damien Bergamini's >>> website afaik (google for it). >> >> ok, but this laptop is like - 3 years old? anyway, i'll look >> there. > > This is due to a lot of circumstance, most of it political: > > - at first every wireless vendor refused to release programming > information, except for a select few. - now, although the > programming information is out in the open, Intel refuses to > release the needed firmware for the chipset under a license that > is compatible for open source projects to include it > > these two facts do not help regular driver development. In fact, > the original author of the BSD drivers for Intel wireless chips > is also the primary author of the cooperative Ralink Technology > chipset driver; given a choice it would be wise to choose a > wireless adapter with that chipset over the Intel ones. > > Anyway you don't really have a choice, just explaining why things > are as they are. you are right here actually. But thanks for the info. Question is - these drivers exist for Linux, is it not the same programming information from Intel that was used to develop the Linux drivers? >> My major concern is suspend to RAM. I use FreeBSD, but not on >> my laptop so far. Looks like i have to wait a while for the >> ACPI to fully 'mature' on freeBSD ;) I *hate* having to >> shutdown my laptoy :) > > Just try it out. 5.4 has a lot of improvements and I haven't > tried suspend in a few releases so maybe you're in for a nice > surprise. This could be something to try anyway. Problem is that my laptop's BIOS does not support APM - which am sure could have worked well. Clem