From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Jun 25 13:37:22 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77AF100F27D for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8A27CC05 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 329D2100F278; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA205100F277 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22c.google.com (mail-it0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8724C7CC04 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id v83-v6so12369015itc.3 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 06:37:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=K8viVGdRufGl7zXPb1hyMqBnlmjoEAROpIn0bJBpJ3w=; b=bsedDp15oLa47q0ukczZJqaobdWju1VvRKj3fmvuDqM7WI/ZO18fquHQbMm8ryy6ch jnBD5WebQJfLyo4IZrP/EB2GkALPUNgo2JpJ4XOXVlp70IZt5DsO1SjQ3e1+Vq8tsEJa Wgqz8SOUazeet26ydha8UYO9S5Dx8lnbEF6hAvO36I0CXiCuM2Z7nDaua34iElBjT0AB 31oTU+gohl+xx11u3GUoYr87MS63toRz2h7Gp96L7Kz3kVLi0RadTYMFeT/NhvsUHBJg zuhPj+XtkSh3ZncjIZzT5yEiSpFollaetLcwfjhcpSixk3kG/oiNWWmHpjRRMG1UvYyL r7hA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=K8viVGdRufGl7zXPb1hyMqBnlmjoEAROpIn0bJBpJ3w=; b=narZS2O6UOROD+11cU71S2Uwh0H8m96ptWGlW4CqLSCSnoYgfglYBgCNApVyLvSGV/ H+Xl9An/w+TjqgAjmZng2qKrfdTBp0suNZfjRBrL+3O6x2375HOCuwxlh6MooO7WVAgU 3uhU+MEsAilgMLgIBemW1vFEdIU/zTACFosNywjTpLBHWRrpt4o/T0YwJ4O7VEsvVQ1D 0yGrRjs3CatwMUMRCtgI5pBFmhNPjDWzWooteeKnR6cn2MP+pTlWD3BslxRWNyjaBM8T 9JvqRBuGK7+PtOcpnF7989t53bEH3x+e8pxxMr10oBF8kxwm4eHSGeVN+73r3HUx1UWz R6Yg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E01MIsruHEwTjRapatgD9TQzxR0tqIqpeW2PyWKMF5nFA4qlcMn efIqpM9X9n2RoPObz9WobSTrgUeL1biFYOkifcbi1w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKL8dGkfyj3dGn2d5zuHOrX0vpp0mIguQ1D5IUt3nkz426vbXDENyeF0omgK+Pj7dfAzY5jWAa+UypTk+HrpW2E= X-Received: by 2002:a24:7c8d:: with SMTP id a135-v6mr920448itd.73.1529933839766; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 06:37:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:5945:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 06:37:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [50.253.99.174] In-Reply-To: <20180625091844.GC2430@kib.kiev.ua> References: <19341.1529917294@critter.freebsd.dk> <20180625091844.GC2430@kib.kiev.ua> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 07:37:19 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Q90uG3lyB7TU-s2_-UBvgmpfm14 Message-ID: Subject: Re: UEFI Plans / Shifts -- RFC To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:37:22 -0000 On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:18 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 09:01:34AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > -------- > > In message gmail.com> > > , Warner Losh writes: > > > > >So here's my open questions: > > >(1) Do I need to parse boot.conf? > > > > I can't see how it would add any value on top of UEFI and reading it > > will just keeping old workarounds alive another decade for no good > reason. > > An obvious values is to have serial console earlier than loader.conf is > parsed. At least on typical desktop motherboards which do not have > serial bios redirection, this is important. > This won't work until AFTER we add ACPI to the boot loader. Warner