From owner-freebsd-security Thu Jul 13 18:17:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C530437B7EC; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00365; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000713191253.04ba03e0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:15:20 -0600 To: Jan Koum , security@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Displacement of Blame[tm] Cc: Warner Losh , Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20000713161612.D59932@ethereal.net> References: <2753.963529551@localhost> <2753.963529551@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:16 PM 7/13/2000, Jan Koum wrote: >i have to agree with jkh here. my mail box is not shrinking and if people >are dumb enough not to make a distinction between freebsd kernel and >xjigsaw port, nothing we do will help them. not even sending them a 6 pack >of clue with fedex overnight express delivery. Let's be fair. They're not idiots, and I think we can help them (and ourselves) at least a little. At the very least, we should make sure that people who try to count bugs automatically by monitoring Bugtraq posts do not attribute bugs in ported software to FreeBSD. >on top of that, brett does not realize how much effort and work kris and warner >put into making ports advisories already. instead of saying thanks, you ask for >more! Actually, if I haven't said thanks to them loud enough, I'll do so now: THANK YOU! But let's also make sure that the messages have the best possible effect. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message