From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 1 07:25:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22306 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 07:25:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22294; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 07:25:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 07:25:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901011525.HAA22294@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: dillon@apollo.backplane.com, scrappy@hub.org CC: grog@lemis.com, donegan@quick.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from The Hermit Hacker on Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:09:59 -0400 (AST)) Subject: Re: sendmail throughput (was: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required.) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:09:59 -0400 (AST) > From: The Hermit Hacker > cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , grog@lemis.com, donegan@quick.net, > current@FreeBSD.ORG > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > : > > : current has 1411 subscribers. each wonts to get the message > > : first! if we do 100 messages a day that's only 141,100 > > > > What, only 1411? yes, freebsd-current is only 1411 subscribers. you deleted the part about delivery rate. delivery rate is very important. imagine receiving mail 30 minutes or 3 hours later than everyone else on the list. make participation difficult and fustrating. > > > > The sendmail limitation you are discussing is a basic queueing / DNS > > resolver limitation that is relatively easy to solve. Postfix is > > almost certainly faster, but it makes no sense to put postfix > > in our base distribution just because you have a 1400 user mailing > > list and your list software doesn't break them up a little before > > starting up sendmail! > > have to agree there...I run one list that is 9k+ subscribers, through > sendmail, and use jbl(?) to break them up into smaller, more manageable > and faster to process chunks... i have used bulk_mailer by kieth moore of the univ of tenn. to break the lists up into small bite size chunks for sendmail....does not do as well as postfix. could you provide an example please. /etc/aliases lines, how long to make one delivery attempt to every address, other info? something solid. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message