From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 17:18:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86EF5C0F for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (mail-ie0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47C36B4E for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id rp18so31300753iec.11 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 09:18:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GGI5Zj41xE9cDbF+ozTYCTFrfYaTKywRT1MLVuG+6ck=; b=KF5FXWyalf8/RoY7hvKQzZi41+C1ZlgME7nTdzxXh5WW9Cjx+7xTJwWcphgbTOUPNy H3XXRPEKZfCyN3HqbMrXV/ulVd0rFmo67+fp5V2ZPqlMoeDXSo1qCcybmuHGZDXWjx+8 +BJZ//EqrCCv4JEf0FLk+dBhbcAkkNLvX633NiT78Dd1obhwvIh6VOXDLzKT8CAW2z/J vxwDq3ogMADEmcFjcJhXhd/KSAYFmxYIPnwKiOXXCkTD9NtoPfwUbshEvbDriJ96l0dw Dzl9aS/Fw3Nu2KYDnZs6tk5VRZpNhrOSMPDyaqCtje+fq22QKZv7WhDAUtRL6P+WYNbT y+rA== X-Received: by 10.42.78.137 with SMTP id n9mr29814664ick.53.1421687887663; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 09:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([73.3.70.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 77sm111336ion.0.2015.01.19.09.18.06 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Jan 2015 09:18:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54BD3C3E.6080901@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:17:50 -0700 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acer Aspire AXC-603-UB17 References: <54BD0FA2.7030307@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <54BD0FA2.7030307@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:18:08 -0000 On 01/19/2015 07:07 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 01/18/15 08:39, Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 18 Jan 2015, Chris Maness wrote: >> >>> Likely UEFI with SecureBoot enabled. Turn SecureBoot off, enable >>> "legacy" or "CSM" booting in what was formerly known as the BIOS >>> setup screens. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I had turned SecureBoot off. There does not seem to be an >>> option for legacy or CSM in the BIOS menu. >>> >>> I cannot get it to even see my memory stick with a FreeBSD install >>> image on it. Even my macbook pro mostly boots this and hangs on >>> some hardware issues (as I expected but just wanted >>> to make sure the usb stick was actually bootable). >> >> UEFI alone might do that. Only UEFI-approved boot devices are shown >> unless legacy or compatibility mode is enabled. Unfortunately, there >> are varying names and methods in the settings between different >> manufacturers. >> > > How common is this problem w/ laptops ? I am thinking of buying a > laptop specifically to install either FreeBSD or OpenBSD, how likely > am I to run into this type of issue ? I have heard of such on Linux > lists in the past, but mostly ignored those threads since I was not a > laptop user. Times they are a changin', though & I might be up against > it now .... Are some manufacturers worse than others, or are they all > about the same in this regard ? TIA for any enlightenment :-) .... > My $.02's worth: get a laptop without secure boot or even uefi in the bios.