From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Feb 28 13:49:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post-11.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010D137B417 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.194.207] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-11.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16gYQi-000H9o-00 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:49:36 +0000 Received: from angel.raggedclown.net (angel.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.7]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [buffy]) with ESMTP id 5E74413040 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:49:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by angel.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [angel], from userid 1005) id 34C36225C1; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:49:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:49:33 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making suggestions Message-ID: <20020228214933.GA484@raggedclown.net> References: <33993602@toto.iv> <15485.38830.961741.750404@guru.mired.org> <20020228055910.GC3311@raggedclown.net> <1014918027.1412142.0@smtp012.mail.yahoo.com> <20020228183526.GA3921@raggedclown.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 01:14:32PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > If PR's are OK for suggestions, I'd have to guess that freebsd-bugs > would be too, since that's that place of last resort for those not > willing to write PRs. But I wouldn't try discussing the suggestion > on freebsd-bugs; I'd take that to a subject-appropriate site, though > that's not always clearly obvious, and I'm still not sure what would > be appropriate for non-technical-list-covered enhancements; the charters > of -chat, -hackers, -current, -questions all seem to exclude it. > That is the problem. If you find a bug, or have an enhancement, have ported something etc... then it is all fairly obvious what to do. However, consider the following (and this is not meant to start a debate about this on this list, I use this for illustrative purposes). There have been recent rumblings about missing KDE components on the ISO's. It't been discussed, and said a few times that there is only so much room on a CD. So I get to think, what is on the CD, looking at /usr/bin I see several things that by no stretch of the imagination could be described as essential. The example I gave is F77. Now if I want to suggest that a re-examination be made of what constitutes the base distribution, and to turf off out fripperies like F77 to whom do I suggest it ? In fact if I suggest that the time has come for a lot of things that are in /usr/bin to start justifying their existance who is going to listen to me ? As Gary points out above there seems to be no forum for this. To *repeat* this is not meant to start a discussion on F77... :) -- Regards Cliff Sarginson -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message