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I've used that since about '89 (bias alert I was maintainer for about 10 years) never had problem with it - it's the ksh on netbsd fwiw. emacs mode in pdksh is pretty good (again biased - I put a lot of work into it). I pinched the src from netbsd to build for freebsd (for junos ;-). Is 400k figure below statically linked? -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 217K Mar 5 2018 /bin/ksh /packages/mnt/ksh32-cd051739/bin/ksh: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, FreeBSD-style, for FreeBSD 11.0 (1100120), not stripped --sjg > Why: > 1/ it is tiny 400k (in the packaged version) all other shells fitting th= e > expectation are bigger > 2/ it's default frontend in interactive mode is very close to what most = people > are used to with bash and shells as default root shell on other BSD and = most > linuxes > 3/ from my narrow window csh as a default root shell is one of the major > complaint (usually the first thing a user get faced to) from new comers = and > also for some long timers who are reinstalling a machine and have not ye= t > installed/configured a bourne compatible shell > What this proposal is _NOT_ about: > 1/ the removal of tcsh from base > 2/ any kid of denial of the quality and interest or features of csh > = > What do you think? > Best regards, > Bapt