From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 16:11:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD5BADCC8B for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jakubik@intertainservices.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6888B1670 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jakubik@intertainservices.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 67D80ADCC89; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D3EADCC88; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jakubik@intertainservices.com) Received: from mail.intertainservices.com (mail.intertainservices.com [67.213.65.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A36166F; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jakubik@intertainservices.com) Received: from mail.intertainservices.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.intertainservices.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB595646F; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:11:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=intertainservices.com; s=mail; t=1458835882; bh=eQ+s4ppC8Jq6uJanHGJxSJVszxUremH2FV9entVYOMg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=AJ+baTAKUZS+7N39pFxa4vbR3hGW/AAbaPFuIoOCzu+uWWoaOTokwrw88Y+Evoh8f RLbIun8LzjGfhf46BkjLHDBMpkXbjLIk8CND7z/oMxzx3amciOJjUggAcmnP8ByR2G zKErCoGhibTyfA7blL2C9ADyiaN+Fh2fpd+5k6dM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:11:22 -0400 From: Mike Jakubik To: Guido Falsi Cc: Ports , owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail/roundcube (bsd.php.mk broken?) Organization: Intertainservices In-Reply-To: <56F343F4.1080603@madpilot.net> References: <56F3111B.4030901@madpilot.net> <3f72fc0f07e217ddb36190fa46b75d35@intertainservices.com> <56F33802.4070100@madpilot.net> <0ad88e191dc0cdf48ad3dda64fe4425d@intertainservices.com> <56F343F4.1080603@madpilot.net> Message-ID: <7e95d28f975984bf195af16b2f8ef071@intertainservices.com> X-Sender: mike.jakubik@intertainservices.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.1 X-intertainservices-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-intertainservices-MailScanner-ID: 1EB595646F.A03EC X-intertainservices-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-intertainservices-MailScanner-From: mike.jakubik@intertainservices.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:11:26 -0000 On 2016-03-23 09:33 PM, Guido Falsi wrote: > On 03/24/16 01:56, Mike Jakubik wrote: >> On 2016-03-23 08:42 PM, Guido Falsi wrote: >>> On 03/24/16 01:09, Mike Jakubik wrote: >> >>>> ports tree. I guess i can try upgrading to 5.5 and hope that my >>>> applications are compatible with it. Sigh, FreeBSD has become a PITA >>>> lately to maintain unless everything installed is bleeding edge. In >>>> any >>>> case, thanks for the help. >>> >>> Sorry I beg to disagree. >>> >>> php 5.4 is unsupported upstream, and 5.5 will EOL in a few months. >>> You >>> should complain to the php project about this, not the ports tree, >>> which >>> is just complying with upstream. >> >> You are correct, however I think php is a special case, because it's a >> slow adopter, sadly a lot of hosting providers have not updated and a >> lot of software is still not compatible with the latest versions. For >> example, the default version of php in CentOS 7 is still 5.4, so I >> don't >> see why removing it from ports was a good idea. >> > > The reason is it is not supported, bugs and vulnerabilities are not > fixed, we would end up giving potentially insecure software, or even > worse, software with known vulnerabilities. I get what you are saying, but I think these kind of changes could be handled better. You go to update something and shit breaks or you get some incomprehensible errors such as in this case forcing you to rummage through some UPDATING file or mailing lists. What ever happened to POLA? Why couldn't it have prompted me upon trying to perform a minor update of roundcube that my version of PHP is no longer supported, and perhaps give me an option to continue anyways at my own risk since it works just fine with the php i have installed. Now i have to manually reinstall all the php packages and binaries that depend on them and hope that my php software will still function with the new php. That is why i say that FreeBSD is a PITA to maintain.