From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 15 11:36:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5DC16A417 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F9B13C458 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1EIRoP4014011 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:51 +1100 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-20-82.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.20.82]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1EIRf2m008079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:43 +1100 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m1EIRf7V032423; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:41 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1EIRfWv032405; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:41 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:40 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Csaba Henk Message-ID: <20080214182740.GZ64299@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <3bbf2fe10802061700p253e68b8s704deb3e5e4ad086@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0802070321n9097d3fy1b39f637b3c2a06@mail.gmail.com> <867ihdc34c.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080212190207.GB49155@beastie.creo.hu> <86d4r2540f.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080213165923.GD49155@beastie.creo.hu> <86zlu493ep.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080214101511.GE49155@beastie.creo.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qD3brAgIG4LbUq6d" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080214101511.GE49155@beastie.creo.hu> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Remove NTFS kernel support X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:36:15 -0000 --qD3brAgIG4LbUq6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:15:11AM +0100, Csaba Henk wrote: >So then, just to clean up more implicit principles: also you mean that >LGPL'd code can't go to the base system unless absolutely necessary? Yes. >yes, why so? FreeBSD has embraced recently a big chunk of CDDL'd code >without making much fuss about licensing, and for practical purposes, If you're talking about either dtrace or ZFS: 1) The features are highly desirable and no more suitably licenced alternative is available now or likely to become available in the near future. 2) It is not part of the GENERIC system and will remain optional due to the license. 3) In the case of dtrace, licensing issues have delayed its implementation by at least a year. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --qD3brAgIG4LbUq6d Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHtIgc/opHv/APuIcRAq2tAJ9zGxLusQmIF3a0ysMROmjJ7mSMWACdF28I nhcOCY4Fg5U5nF31XpUZKoM= =v3jg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qD3brAgIG4LbUq6d--