From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 10 17:36:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEE337B401 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D5843F13 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:36:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CA045194A; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:06:27 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:06:27 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help! my wm just went awol from X! Message-ID: <20030111013627.GB87427@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030110061736.GA7080@keyslapper.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030110061736.GA7080@keyslapper.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 10 January 2003 at 1:17:36 -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Ok, this one is pretty frustrating. We had a power cut tonight, and > my machine rebooted. It came up quite nicely, better than I expected, > considering I had recently updated some of the startup packages, and > hadn't yet had a chance to power cycle it myslef. > > One problem. Now, when I log into X, my window manager won't come up. > I get the dull grey grid with an 'X' mouse pointer, and the console, > but no menu, terminal, nothing. My ~/.Xclients hasn't changed, and > that's where I've always started fvwm2 from I even had it redirect > error output to a file so I could see what was the problem when > something didn't work. Now, I see nothing. The ~/.FVWM-errors file > never gets created, so it looks like .Xclients never gets executed. This is the first time I've ever heard of a file called .Xclients. I thought there must have been a gap in my education and went to RTFM. No mention of .Xclients. I grepped the entire X11R6 source trees. No mention of .Xclients. I googled and got only 5,780 hits, most in Spanish or Dutch. From what I can tell, .Xclients is a Red Hat-ism that is used by some other script, possibly .xinitrc. > Did the XFree86 desktop init file change? No. > I can't find any docs on it. Manpages aren't much help either. Read startx(1) and xinit(1) if you're starting X from a shell, and xdm(1) if you're using xdm. The startup files are .xinitrc and .xsession respectively, and have been for at least ten years. > And since I can't get anythign running in X, I can't get a browser > up to go to xfree86.org and see. Hell, I like the TTY terminals for > some things, but even Mutt is kindof a pain there. You can always start things manually from a vty: xterm & That should at least get you started. It would be interesting to know: 1. What window manager are you using? 2. How are you starting X? 3. What's in your .xinitrc/.xsession? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message