From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 4 17:39:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01629 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 17:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [205.153.153.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01621 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 17:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fewtch@serv.net) Received: from desktop-pentium (dialup108.serv.net [205.153.153.137]) by mx.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08258 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 17:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980704173945.007f1d30@mx.serv.net> X-Sender: fewtch@mx.serv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 17:39:45 -0700 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tim Gerchmez Subject: Re: Top Ten (here's mine...) In-Reply-To: <19980704000007.20605@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:00 AM 7/4/98 +1000, Sue Blake wrote: >As a newbie without X, if you could only install ten FreeBSD packages, >which ones would be essential for everyday use? *WITHOUT* X? Hmmm, I can't think of anything essential whatsoever (the base distribution is enough). If I had X, I could think of a number of packages that would be useful and fun, though: * xearth * rxvt * xcalendar * xfishtank * asclock * ftptool * Netscape Communicator 4.04 * xtar * Acroread * xfmail How's that for a top 10 (not including dependencies, of course)? I purposely didn't include my X client of choice (Fvwm2) since everyone has the option of choosing their favorite and that's part of the fun. I really can't think of anything though for a newbie *WITHOUT* x. Why would a newbie want to run BSD without X, anyway? They most likely won't be doing much programming, so what are they going to do with their system? Using X utilities like ftptool is *SO* much easier than typing "ftp" on the command line... Well... on second thought, I can think of one that is essential for a newbie if you're gonna be working without X: mc (Midnight Commander). It's a Norton Commander clone (only 10 times better) that is simply incredibly useful for all kinds of file and directory management. It does require linux_libs though (a 5 meg dependency), and having the ability to run Linux binaries set in /etc/rc.conf. -- My web site starts at http://www.serv.net/~fewtch/index.html - lots of goodies for everyone, have a look if you have the time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message