From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 05:00:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D563DF for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 05:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sclists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E6881D for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 05:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id hx10so30484vcb.19 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:00:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GQZgESAUrxaPstgyuVob5r2z8CYY6MhWEP0WGoCP4r4=; b=yHlr3EVoO5Bj1RMa+Tyfqshk0D8uNrnzsbBd9hhCM3tUUXjtvgbzDa/nCfU+V9agnA vsfUL3A0rVq7x2rsUPbpBlPlZI6P0S7B+SRUjQrm6TwJ4E63/pWY/jF9GKvqDmiCbJGG vxudzHQzb8yBoQY1lijligW2vMysrQ/bPQLCK/iEHw7wsyph2wO8HlCjyzOtanTW46dp 4Bbfr+UUDV3IIvr4XKE5CwPRxwGSnrIwZsYJqux3IFT794hKzg+DKlvckjr4KxpzhGKl yKIS3nd/iE+ktCw1B9lgbSMKqx4fRBMo+R7DKTLxTvVSBO6NUjQ4P3AbzljCtidJIRQf XOWQ== X-Received: by 10.220.90.145 with SMTP id i17mr11404405vcm.25.1364878826849; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (ool-44c0cdb5.dyn.optonline.net. [68.192.205.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tf2sm63744veb.8.2013.04.01.22.00.25 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515A65FC.5090706@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:00:44 -0400 From: Stephen Cook User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith Subject: Re: qjail fork attribution was Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique (fwd) References: <20130401200221.T56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20130401200221.T56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dirk Engling , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 05:00:33 -0000 On 4/1/2013 5:23 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > One does not have to be a lawyer to know the lack of any license verbiage > embedded in computer programs released to the public becomes property of public > domain forever. Putting license verbiage on your next port version is > unenforceable because it's already property of public domain. I don't know enough about the original disagreement to comment on it, but this part is completely untrue. IANAL but I can use Google and common sense. Under the Berne Convention, if there is no notice included with a copyrightable work, it defaults to "all rights reserved". Until you receive explicit permission, or a permissive license is included, it is assumed that you *cannot* legally copy or derive from that work. So, if there is no license at all attached to ezjail, as you say, you are infringing copyright. Luckily for you, the ezjail web page declares it to be licensed as Beer Ware after all. Nothing personal, I just tend to correct people when they make up laws, especially after a long enough period where I didn't get to criticize anyone's grammar. :-) -- Stephen