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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:20:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: firefox To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Mark Millard via freebsd-ports , "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 468tV03CZRz3LwZ X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=iAKpskHY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of xxjack12xx@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::836 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=xxjack12xx@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.27), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.96), asn: 15169(-2.38), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 06:20:25 -0000 On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:51 AM Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:29 AM Jack L. wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:32 PM Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrot= e: >> > >> > @lbutlr wrote on 2019/08/12 07:08: >> > > On 11 Aug 2019, at 20:29, bruce wrote: >> > >> I have tried firefox. It crashes regularly >> > > >> > > That doesn=E2=80=99t sound right. If Firefox is crashing a lot there= is something not quite right with your system or install. >> > >> > I am using Seamonkey on everyday basis. Sometimes my computer is runni= ng >> > 20+ days without reboot and Seamonkey running all the time with 5 >> > windows and total count of 200+ openned tabs. No crashes at all. >> > Firefox crashes instantly after start (even if I delete its profile) >> > Palemoon, Qupzilla, Iridium crashes few times a day. >> > LibreOffice, Gimp and other apps are running fine. Only browsers are s= o >> > unstable these days. And as you can read I am not alone with this kind >> > of experience so I don't think it's just my computer problem. >> > >> > Miroslav Lachman >> >> yup, they don't make browsers like they used to > > > I'll probably regret opening this potential can of worms, but I find thes= e reports of instability in Firefox surprising. I have used Firfox as my we= b browser on FreeBSD for many year, going back to at least Firefox v3 and p= robably v2. I can't say I've never had it crash, but in the past year I can= 't recall a single crash on FreeBSD. It has been rock solid. So why is it f= ailing or some people? (I'll note in passing that Firefox has been somewhat= less stable on Windows 7 where it seems to crash every couple of weeks. > > Possibilities include hardware, especially graphics, web sites visited, a= nd Firefox configuration. Lots of tabs may be an issue as I try to keep my = open tabs under 20. > I can't imagine trying to deal with 200+, but it must eat a lot of resou= rces. That may be tied to the failures reported. My experience with firefox is it gets slower and slower and slower until it's practically unusable until it's restarted (even having only the gmail tab open for days)