From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 19:46:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5A3106564A; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4138FC1D; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o7MJgMss034828; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:42:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:42:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20100822.134229.550118873867470111.imp@bsdimp.com> To: dougb@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <4C717990.6020601@FreeBSD.org> References: <20100821.191255.1023414010414033264.imp@bsdimp.com> <4C717990.6020601@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, rpaulo@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, bz@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, anchie@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r211501 - in head/sys: modules modules/send netinet netinet6 sys X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:46:27 -0000 In message: <4C717990.6020601@FreeBSD.org> Doug Barton writes: : On 08/21/2010 18:12, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > Do we really need to have a bunch of threads about why people should : > do the things they have promised to do? : : Since this is basically a useless/snarky question, here are some : useless/snarky responses. Feel free to pick your favorite. : : Apparently we do, since there's still no man page for the new feature. : : I don't know Warner, what do you think? : : How many threads would you prefer on this topic? : : I guess you're right, we don't really need man pages after all. Thanks : for setting me straight. I think you're drawing the wrong conclusion here. My point is that we have trusted folks in the past to do the right thing, even when they don't say they will. Here we have someone who says she'll commit something soon. We should take her at her word that she'll do this. Reverting all the code is cutting off our nose to spite our face and is too extreme a remedy raised far too early in the process. Complaining like this sends lots of negative energy towards Ann and might actively turn her off to writing the man page, which is exactly the result you are trying to avoid. While the ends are noble, the means I strongly disagree with. Warner