From owner-freebsd-security Sat Feb 10 13:33:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from cypherpunks.ai (unknown [209.88.68.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C8B37B4EC for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from vangelderen.org (grolsch.ai [209.88.68.214]) by cypherpunks.ai (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA97D9; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:33:05 -0400 (AST) Message-ID: <3A85B391.DB3ABC2A@vangelderen.org> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:33:05 -0400 From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roelof Osinga Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reminder notice about FreeBSD Security Advisories References: <20010209214354.2FBD637B4EC@hub.freebsd.org> <20010209140614.A67010@mollari.cthul.hu> <3A853F1C.DED59C4B@nisser.com> <20010210053726.A45756@mollari.cthul.hu> <3A854C41.7BA1B2A1@nisser.com> <3A85799E.C6A3745B@vangelderen.org> <3A85AF50.1DF04F6F@nisser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roelof Osinga wrote: > > "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" wrote: > > > > The above is not correct. The IDEA algorithm is patented in > > Europe as #0482154. Noncommercial use is free, commercial > > use requires a paid license. This has been the case ever > > since PGP 2.x.x was released and will be the case until the > > year 2011. Fortunately there is no reason whatsoever to use > > IDEA these days, except for legacy purposes. > > > > http://www.media-crypt.com/pages/fidea.html > > Yeah, but then again: > > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,40329,00.html > > supports my 'idea' about the IDEA matter. Actually, it does not. > To quote from the wired article: > > "European law specifically forbids patents on computer software, > but the European Patent Office is strongly in favor of changing > that." But IDEA is an algorithm, not software and therefore perfectly patentable. So please, don't argue to the contrary until you have consulted with a patent lawyer and can present us with some *hard* facts. > The question now becomes do we believe a vendor with a vested > interest in claiming its patented (or is it patent penging?) or an > independent source with no stake in the matter? The independent source here seems to be your incorrect reading of an article in Wired neither of which, as far as I know, have any sound expertise in field of patent law. [snip unfounded speculation] Cheers, Jeroen -- Jeroen C. van Gelderen o _ _ _ jeroen@vangelderen.org _o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _< \_ _>(_) (_)/<_ \_| \ _|/' \/ (_)>(_) (_) (_) (_) (_)' _\o_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message