From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 19:37:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7015716A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:37:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A9643D2F for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF5DF1B2F; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93475-06; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3883F1AC4; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:37:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: Alex D'Elia In-Reply-To: <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org><1096744220.95617.5.camel@server> <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6eUjqFeNu38v2cU65maZ" Message-Id: <1096745844.95733.7.camel@server> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:37:24 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:37:26 -0000 --=-6eUjqFeNu38v2cU65maZ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 12:23, Alex D'Elia wrote: > * Sean McNeil [041002 21:10]: >=20 > > On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 12:00, Mikhail P. wrote: > > > On Saturday 02 October 2004 18:48, Alex D'Elia wrote: > > > > pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff irq 22 at device 17.5 on pci0 > > > > pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > > > pcm0: > > >=20 > > > That's good. > > >=20 > > > > > > > > now one last issue for me, is the Linux compatibility, but I think > > > > that must be a problem, as it seems that the emulation works > > > > only for i386 archs ! mhh !! > > >=20 > > > Yes, that's the issue with linux compatibility on amd64.. > > > It seems like you'll be using computer as desktop, so I would suggest= that you=20 > > > switch to 32bit mode - it will be still (almost) as fast as in 64bit = - and=20 > > > install i386 distribution. That way you will have much less issues wi= th=20 > > > emulation/multimedia. > >=20 > > 32-bit Linux emulation would be all he could use in 32-bit mode anyway.= =20 > > Linux32 emulation works great for me and I have no significant issues > > with anything running in 64-bit mode natively either. The only > > exception being the lack of a Java VM. This is a well-known limitation > > that will hopefully be addressed when Suns Java 5 comes out with a > > source license in a few more weeks. >=20 > exactly..... and actually this was a machine for users and also a machine > for myself ( it was my first machine, which died after years of non stop > running, because of an hardware problem ..... PCs :/ ....tz ! ). > So i wont switch it because it would be no sense for me to get and > amd64 and use it in 32bit mode. >=20 > But what's that thing about Linux32 ?? > where do I find it ? If you look in the freebsd-amd64 mailing list archive you will see all kinds of discussion about it. My kernel is built with 32-bit binary compatibility by adding: options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries and Linux 32-bit with options COMPAT_LINUX32 options LINPROCFS I do not think these are setup as loadable modules yet, but I might be mistaken. Loadable modules work great now too, so there is no reason they couldn't be built as modules I should think. The reason it is called Linux32 compat is that there are aspirations for eventually adding Linux64 compat. I think someone fixed the ports for linux_base so you should be able to install that too. > Guys, thanks a lot :) so you gonna get a login as soon as it's ready ! > ( if you want, ofcourse ;^) Thanks for the offer, but I have my AMD64 workstation and it is running everything in 64bit mode plus Linux32 emulation ;) Eagerly awaiting a native JVM... Cheers, Sean --=-6eUjqFeNu38v2cU65maZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBXwN0yQsGN30uGE4RAhN2AJ43QaEatzlrqMJDqnGfEZlBYHsVwwCg7OrK TZfOk/qrAfh4kYGeGQQwSh8= =hDTr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6eUjqFeNu38v2cU65maZ--