From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 11:12:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981C616A4CE; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C1A43D1F; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-235-164.zoominternet.net [24.154.235.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2IJCgcJ044775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:12:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:12:59 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ender Message-Id: <20040318141259.17bbce92@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4059F314.90004@tog.net> References: <200403122136.i2CLaCm9096276@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040315033213.GA40858@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040315180324.0fa39609@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20040318002208.GC2541@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040318162358.3f57aef3@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20040318172827.GB41559@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040318131238.12142bf1@localhost> <4059F314.90004@tog.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Alexander Leidinger cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: obrien@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.cpu.mk bsd.dep.mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.sys.mk src/sys/conf files kern.mk kern.pre.mk kmod.mk src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm Makefile X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:12:45 -0000 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:05:56 -0500 Ender wrote: > Tom Rhodes wrote: > > >On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:28:27 -0800 > >"David O'Brien" wrote: > > > > > > > >>Just to be clear -- I'm not against supporting a 2nd compiler in /usr/src > >> > >> > > > >Then why voice any opinion at all? > > > > > > > >>at all. Just don't think Intel is the most gracious compiler vendor. > >> > >> > > > >Oh, because you don't like Intel? I agree that they're greedy, but > >that shouldn't really ... > > > > > > > >>I'll also strongly push back on ever using 'icc' as part of the release > >>build. > >> > >> > > > >push back a release build. Are you worried that the 'rumors?' of > >better, more optimized binaries going to hurt the AMD effort? > > > > > > > Your comments are a lot more biased than the original comments. It has > already been shown that the intel compiler "advantages" run exactly the > same on a AMD cpu. (after forcing the changes to ignore the cpu type) It > has also been stated that a company is in full right to apply whatever > advantages to there product they see fit, and i agree. I also believe > that if we are going to support a change that clearly gives advantages > to one cpu type, we should spend a equal amount of time supporting > advantages to all specific cpu types. ( the EFER.NXE in the > FreeBSD/amd64 loader for example) > Umm, I'm really wondering if you're talking to David or myself. -- Tom Rhodes