Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:05:37 -0800 From: chip <chip@wiegand.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU>, "f.johan.beisser" <jan@caustic.org>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer (was "Re: ... RedHat ...") Message-ID: <200201241906749.SM01304@there> In-Reply-To: <3C5028F0.97A0CC56@mindspring.com> References: <20020123114658.A514@lpt.ens.fr> <200201240622374.SM01304@there> <3C5028F0.97A0CC56@mindspring.com>
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Thanks alot. After reading all that I think I've had more than enough for one day (or two or three even). Maybe doing just for the fun of it - isn't. Maybe someday, not real soon though, I'm sure. Just the little experience with XP this week (at work) was enough to last a lifetime. ;-) -- Chip On Thursday 24 January 2002 07:32 am, Terry Lambert banged out on the keys: > chip wrote: > > On Wednesday 23 January 2002 11:57 pm, Terry Lambert banged out on the keys: > > > I think you've been "lucky". Part of it is the luck you made, > > > with your very non-standard configuration, compared to that of > > > > I think I'll do a dual-boot setup just for the experience. I'm open for a > > little extra 'fun'. ;-) > > If you must, then here are some "spoilers" for you. Ignore > these, if you want to get the "full experience". > > PS: Create a Boot Magic "Rescue disk" when it asks you to! > You *will* need it, and if you don't have it, you will > *NOT* be able to use the recovery CDROMs to reinstall > Windows XP! > > [ ... spoilers .... ] > > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > > 1) You need Partition Magic 7.0 to do Windows XP partitions; > previous versions don't work on them. Expect to make a > trip to the store and shell out $70 (you get a $20 rebate, > if you buy the package with the rebate sticker AND you > have the box from a previous version to cut the UPC off to > send it in). > > 2) If you try to install Boot Magic up front, it's going to > fail; you have to create a FAT16 or FAT32 partition to > hold the Boot Magic data, since the boot blocks can't > read Windows XP FS's, only FAT16 or FAT32. > > 3) If you want it to actually work, you have to create a > "Primary" partition. To do this, you have to tell it > that you intend to boot an OS from the thing, even if > you don't intend to. Otherwise, it makes a secondary > partition in a primary extended partition, and you are > screwed. > > 4) The safest one to use is a FAT32 (Windows 98) partition; > this means you have to burn 40M (actually, 47.1M) on the > thing. > > 5) You have to put the new partition up front on the disk. > > So, to recap and give explicit steps, you need to: > > i) Start with a Windows XP system > ii) Install Partition Magic 7.x > iii) Resize the Windows XP partition smaller; 6G is about > the maximum, since the FAT32, Windows XP, and FreeBSD > root disk all have to be in the first 8G of disk > space (NT must be all within the first 4G, if you > plan to boot from the disk!). > iv) Create a small FAT32 partition at the front > of the disk > v) Apply the changes (requires a reboot) > > Now we are in "shoot yourself in the foot" territory... > > 6) Install Boot Magic > > 7) CREATE A RECOVERY DISK > > 8) DO *NOT* EXIT IT UNTIL YOU HAVE CONFIGURED IT > COMPLETELY FOR THE BOOT OF WINOWS XP, OR YOU > WILL NEED TO REINSTALL! > > 9) You need to mark the XP partition as the default > > 10) If you don't change the properties on the Windows > XP boot selection, you *WILL NOT* be able to get > back into the Boot Magic config program, and you > *WILL NOT* be able to recover with the recovery > disk. > > 10a) If you find yourself in this position, you need to > boot the recovery disk, and exit out to a DOS prompt; > then at the DOS prompt, use the undocumented "/X" > option on the FDISK program on the command line, and > delete *ALL* the partitions, or the Windows XP > recovery CDROM may not work! (vendor specific; > that's "FDISK /X", if you weren't paying attention). > > 11) You *MUST* modify the boot partition properties > *away* from the defaults that Boot Magic installs; > if you do not do this, then the parition where the > Boot Magic files operate *WILL NOT* be accessible to > Windows XP! > > 12) Then, *AND ONLY THEN*, can you exit the Boot Magic > setup and reboot. > > Time for another recap, giving explicit steps: > > vi) Install Boot Magic > vii) Do a "properties" on the Windows XP boot menu entry > viii) Check the "Override defaults" checkbox, and make the > FAT32 partition visible to Windows XP. IF YOU DO NOT > DO THIS, YOU WILL HAVE TO REINSTALL WINDOWS XP. > ix) You also *MUST* mark the Windows XP partition as the > default or Boot Magic will select the FAT32 as default, > and YOU WILL HAVE TO REINSTALL WINDOWS XP. > x) If you want, delete the FAT32 partition out of the boot > menu entirely, since it's not really bootable. > > 13) Reboot your system into Windows XP to verify that the > installation is all happy. If it's not, you made a > mistake somewhere, and your will need to scratch the > disk and restart the process. > > 14) Shutdown and boot from your FreeBSD CDROM; you are > now ready to try installing FreeBSD. > > [ At this point, we note how dangerous it is to even try to > install FreeBSD at all, these days... 8-( ] > > [ Do your FreeBSD install thing ] > > 15) Boot Windows XP again, and add FreeBSD to the boot > menu. > > 16) Use the "Properties" to override the default *again* > and make the FAT32 and Windows XP partitions visible > to FreeBSD, if you want to be able to mount them > from FreeBSD at all. > > 17) Reboot again to test both Windows XP and FreeBSD > booting. If it works, you have dodged the bullet. > > Final recap: > > xi) Add FreeBSD to the boot menu > xii) Make sure you override the visibility defaults, so > FreeBSD can see the Windows XP and FAT32 disks; the > FAT32 disk is useful for transferring data between > the OSs. > > If you actually get this far without giving up, I have a > couple of "FreeBSD Daemon" igon artworks for the Boot Magic > menu I can give you. 8-). Compared to the rest of the > process, reverse engineering the icons so that they can be > replaced was a breeze. > > > Whee! Isn't installing FreeBSD fun and simple for anyone > who wants to set up a dual boot system so that they can > try it out for the first time?!? > > -- Terry > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+> Windows 95/NT - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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