From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 19 7: 1:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B563037B6A0 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 14Jd2A-000LlS-00; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:00:58 +0000 To: Bill Moran , Cliff Sarginson , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Cliff Sarginson Subject: Re: This is not a re-opening of the shell wars.. :) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:00:58 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@btvs.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 192.250.24.58 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > > > A very recent mail to this esteemed list was from someone who > > didn't like Fbsd because it apparently uses the Bourne Shell. > > Sounds like a lame excuse not to learn something new. (using Bourne > shell as excuse not to learn FreeBSD) > > > It occurred to me that everyone uses the shell to a greater > > or lesser extent and since it is such a fundamental tool maybe > > it is worth saying in the front page blurb on FreeBSD that it supports > > all popular shells, sh,ksh,csh,tcsh,bash..even zsh. > > Wouldn't hurt. > > > The first thing I did when I loaded BSD was to find "bash", I just > > assumed it would have it. People with a Linux background will certainly > > miss it; and maybe not have the investigative zeal to find it. > > That's amazing to me. Because: > 1. Anyone with any UN*X experience whatsoever would know that you can > install other shells. > 2. Anyone who wouldn't know they could install other shells wouldn't > know they were missing anything. > > Apparently there are a few people in the middle. I would suppose that > there's very few. I'd be more inclined to assume that he was making up > an excuse not to like FreeBSD. I've seen people do this a lot, it's just > an excuse to cover up the fact that they didn't want to like it to begin > with - somebody probably pushed him into trying it when he didn't want > to, and he used it just long enough to find an excuse to report back to > the pusher. > If I'm right, the solution is to not push people into things they don't > want to try. If I'm wrong, then just ignore my babbling. > Oh I wasn't thinking of placating him in particular. I was thinking more of making sure that it is clearer that FBSD has support for a tremendous number of software tools, including everyone's favourite shell. I am still discovering gems in the /.../bin directories :) Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message