From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 17:47:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A6BACBE80 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38CF5A2B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u2AHlPIT002941; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:26 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: Upcoming Releases To: "Kevin P. Neal" References: <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de> <56E13766.4040604@qeng-ho.org> <20160310142439.GA10530@neutralgood.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <56E1B32D.5070806@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:25 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160310142439.GA10530@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:47:29 -0000 On 10/03/2016 14:24, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 08:59:18AM +0000, Arthur Chance wrote: >> It's always worth remembering the old bit of computing folklore that IBM >> defined "the lunatic fringe" as those who took the x.0 release of any >> software. >> >> When 11.0 comes out I'll wait a week to see if there are any loud >> screams and then try it out on my desktop, as boot environments make it >> easy to roll back. If it tests out OK, then I'll deploy it to my >> servers. Unlike many other pieces of software, I've rarely had any >> problems with an x.0 release of FBSD, which says a lot about the release >> team's competence. Most of the problems I've seen raised come from >> people not reading the release notes properly, like the "what's happened >> to bind?" problems with 10.0. > > The unfortunate thing is that not running a ".0" release only works out > well if fraction of the people avoid it. If everyone avoids it then the > ".1" release becomes the new ".0" release. > Firstly it was a joke about the quality of IBM software back in the days when they thought they owned the market whatever they did. Secondly, it's my experience that the "lunatic fringe" is a sizeable fraction of users (me included) - there are a significant number round here who test beta releases as well. -- Moore's Law of Mad Science: Every eighteen months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point.