From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 14:36:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38CE46E2 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E57BC2C96 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1X73qN-0001ND-5e for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 18:36:35 +0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 18:36:35 +0400 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDP/TCP versus IP frames - subtle out of order packets with hardware hashing Message-ID: <20140715143635.GA5178@zxy.spb.ru> References: <53C4EE00.5090705@gmail.com> <20140715093125.GA89128@zxy.spb.ru> <53C507F2.2090604@gmail.com> <20140715113319.GA96254@zxy.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:36:39 -0000 On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:33:57AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 15 July 2014 04:33, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 03:22:34PM +0430, Hooman Fazaeli wrote: > > > >> On 7/15/2014 2:01 PM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 01:31:52PM +0430, Hooman Fazaeli wrote: > >> > > >> >> Doesn't the problem applies to TCP too? > >> >> TCP may be fragmented too but is less likely because of MSS. > >> > Don't forget GRE, IPIP, ESP and AH! > >> > > >> These protocols don't use port numbers and the RSS hash is computed based on the > >> (srcip,dstip) tuple, so the problem does not apply to them. > > > > And all flows go to one queue? Bad. > > All the packets between two IP addresses for non-TCP, non-UDP get > hashed to the same CPU core, yes. > > If you have 1000 IP tunnels to different end-hosts, they'll be on > different CPUs. What about two host, 10G link and 1000 TCP connections over IPsec?