From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Wed Dec 6 16:16:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E929BE844EA; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03BF780D7; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: by sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5FA716045; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:16:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 23:18:15 +0100 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" Cc: Benno Rice , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Conclusion of fortune(6) discussion Message-ID: <20171205221815.VDf9r%steffen@sdaoden.eu> References: <1512509473.1313677.1195210352.2DC7580C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <24028.1512513033@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <24028.1512513033@critter.freebsd.dk> Mail-Followup-To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" , Benno Rice , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Steffen Nurpmeso User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.5-41-g29c58dc6 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 16:16:10 -0000 "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: |In message <1512509473.1313677.1195210352.2DC7580C@webmail.messagingengin= e.c\ |om> |, Benno Rice writes: | |> I acknowledge the history that the fortune files embody but we=E2=80=99re |>not living in that history any more. We=E2=80=99re living now. The world= in 2017 |>is not the world in 1987 or the world in 1997. | |To me this is the most convincing argument for getting rid of the |old jokes: Fortune(6) as joke-supply only make sense if somebody |humourously competent actively curate the collection of jokes. | |Distributing the same old jokes, year after year, release after |release is a ritual, and it is certainly not funny. | |We can argue exactly how well curated the freebsd-tips are, but |they are by definition fresh to their intended audience and even I |will admit to having learned something from one or two of them. The public discourse (of those countries that i have on my media radar, embarassingly few) beats with a sledgehammer of lies and an overwhelming amount of (superficial) facts without giving any context. It is not the time for receiving undertones in between written lines, and it seems it has become an impossibility to expect them to appear before one mind's eye just because of the context in which they .. indeed appear. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)