From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 8 13:47:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60D2CD60CF for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38959CE for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C011CCD60CE; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBB2CD60CD for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x234.google.com (mail-wr0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CA599CD for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x234.google.com with SMTP id i10so60916245wrb.0 for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 05:47:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sY4zBg+Ta2Hvts3+sykBj7AZ9zfoQTdOM3EESVSKmJI=; b=NGO9EAXGndrjOgYyAmWBeJbMR0wGMhSjJhQ1+Q2BN4z8YgdBhpexbaNoTp5S5WsRNW /xCOjb3vzM6FBTA4kVJq15s5ccw+ohO58us0eIC/CEjp5wWcqdnDFiHta1a5X8C6btNh IdgZlUfcPTs0yX8ATefqGe6JXwkBoVtJs2YSGTFu4v07TihRw5Xdj3v89rA1MPQR0muB QVDRmdF/U4sa8H/X9DI41fiSSZKok8TxBz3ZQ6G/ZD4ZdEQSPK3HQO/2FOi6cfIvpym4 92LA3vtuunA9FVpszI8uIO2wTm9ZNH6lLVEqjO6buYrxYAB+k50Oii0f87wgN/VdxEM6 j6zA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sY4zBg+Ta2Hvts3+sykBj7AZ9zfoQTdOM3EESVSKmJI=; b=JpYup4pZxMz+9ih8Lr8Lp5P50AipUvdGcLYChFItrkXHgV37Qb4Qk+adeGm4fQbaws lbZtMAXKIRaCnerzIzb/NW/00VN9iv4V0StB7W1do+DLqXS0sfJkaYnutEJrGx6XFL6O 0bGVjTf+p0/XhobInin4+GI5fWQT8VLfZZM4OkBIysQxA0tAF5mL9NQCAOOs+4yR0fad RaN//KNtu9YZqjFsk2mhbuND0XbxL6HLJ3A7DoDJvWl1WSRTEjuQnnOqagcy9Vb6MP8d X2FD6IfVxERPZaJIfgHiQe2Qkz2ZKlm0lo7HBIdffA9GOlw9vxt/MMGaFtJMqhqW3xi8 3i4A== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXK+bTdaQa1AzSfzRqoSALN7yId34qiKRwI+QcnsVLheUpUkGTW4rgfph49W0IrTGg== X-Received: by 10.223.139.12 with SMTP id n12mr18936667wra.176.1486561656614; Wed, 08 Feb 2017 05:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i29sm13155040wrc.25.2017.02.08.05.47.35 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 08 Feb 2017 05:47:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:47:33 +0000 From: RW To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports and dependency hell Message-ID: <20170208134733.3d8a05c3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> References: <11a62a44-1fef-0c58-da13-b024c28b4a5a@freebsd.org> <3790621b-de85-9d9e-f75b-568120c7faff@gjunka.com> <477a6db4-60c1-f6a3-fd47-a26699f8411b@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 13:47:39 -0000 On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:03:56 +0800 Julian Elischer wrote: > On 8/2/17 3:17 am, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > > > On 07/02/2017 18:03, Julian Elischer wrote: > >> This is a serious post on a serious issue that ports framework > >> people seem unaware of. > >> (...) > >> > >> The call "It just works under linux, select the versions you want > >> of each package and type make" is often heard around the company. > >> And management is not totally deaf. > >> > > > > Hi Julian, > > I may not fully understand how it works but what prevents you from > > getting sources for the version you want and typing make in them, > > exactly the way you do it in Linux? It should pick up the versions > > of dependencies currently installed in the system and compile for > > them. Is it only when you want to use the ports infrastructure that > > poses a problem? > > Nothing stops me from doing that. It's just that means that the ports > infrastructure is useless and a complete waste of time right? > I'm no ready to admit that, however I may just be in denial. It wasn't entirely clear what you were comparing FreeBSD ports with, is it specifically buildroot2?