From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 22:23:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD48D106564A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lichray@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AB88FC15 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iea17 with SMTP id 17so7904566iea.13 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=URX+ERdxBkSSE8E1iR+OdCdoEI2sx+BJkCeF2zqi6z8=; b=ZazhDSBALRBP5GVpSuN26lbSfjVWdLuLTSGeaDGihSrUOMneSqK6LqLg6mGuNmetZ6 ZmRu6+Z4DYiDsgaSPjvQiK+oRY5sJOw92zJQ6umrgozXtZI+QHaAtfVT8kPirBTevbE5 w8RRr2wDBcyh89qTOB6A+R34Hrz3P6oZQppXYhmb6h+urZZX6pDrpDS5gFrB49Wc8tEA pOFEPnCvr46kiIA6dC5NppwtDFthL1KQlUESQJ7rmJl/fCH9E9VKL4sOELx0D/Gi5HYG yNGOfJ4m0a9kxZ8bevGsCAAZan4PN+4zVkQQZMovWv/TbpgXlMrzSC5nsjSydfbiqomO 4H6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.106.147 with SMTP id du19mr10237486icc.56.1347920599915; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.127.76 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.127.76 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5057906C.9090002@madpilot.net> References: <5057906C.9090002@madpilot.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:23:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Zhihao Yuan To: Guido Falsi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: My explanation to "a default DE" (was "Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD") X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:23:20 -0000 On Sep 17, 2012 4:04 PM, "Guido Falsi" wrote: > > On 09/17/12 21:13, Zhihao Yuan wrote: >> >> 1. Maximize graphical user experience by officially implementing Wifi >> helpers, auto-mounters; > > > A good automounter definitely does not need a GUI. > =E2=80=A6 > BTW for this case too there is a whole set of problems due to authorizations. various other OSes have solved this in many ways, most common solution used to be to just make every user "root"(or whatever the other OS calls it ;) > So, my opinion is, we need to standardize both, or we can't provide a modern graphical user experience. > Also, you should also have a look at net-mgmt/wifimgr if you really can't do without a mouse. As u can see, it's a stand alone app. But the most widely used wifi managers are always taskbar applets -- something bound to a specific DE. -- we must standardize a ${DE}! -- Zhihao Yuan