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Date:      Sat, 9 Nov 2013 13:06:24 -0800
From:      Tim Kientzle <kientzle@freebsd.org>
To:        Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Are extended attributes data or meta-data?
Message-ID:  <502A2D02-6AB3-42FC-94D8-261A208751ED@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20131108234505.GC8321@server.rulingia.com>
References:  <20131108234505.GC8321@server.rulingia.com>

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On Nov 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com> wrote:

> I've been getting regular error messages logged by afpd:
> Nov  9 00:00:19 server afpd[1966]: sys_getextattr_size: error: =
Permission denied
> I have spent some time digging into it and it's triggered by
> extattr_get_link(2) returning EACCESS because a file is not readable,
> but stat(2) on the file succeeded.
>=20
> According to extattr(2), "[n]amed extended attributes are meta-data
> associated with vnodes" but the actual code for VOP_GETEXTATTR() (at =
least
> for ufs & zfs) checks for VREAD access, whereas the VOP_GETATTR() call
> (used by stat(2)) doesn't include any access checks (so stat(2) will
> succeed unless namei() fails).
>=20
> IMHO, this behaviour is inconsistent:  The extended attributes are
> documented as "meta-data" and but the access checks are for "data".
> Which is correct?

Practically speaking, extended attributes are used both
for data and metadata.

I would consider the existing behavior (extattr calls fail on
non-readable files) to be correct in the absence of NFSv4
ACLs (which include a specific permission for extattr readability).

The extattr(2) manpage should probably document that
the calls fail on non-readable files.

Tim




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